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as someone who has pretty much only played grixis or rug delver for the last few years, i totally agree with this post, except for the condition on the mirror match edge--i think rug has the edge...

whole-heartedly agree. goyf gets a bit of a bad rep in this deck because hes easy to remove and slow (for this format at least). hes in top form against elves, though, because they have no removal...

this is a fallacy. it may be tempting, but you cant try to remove ALL of their threats. your creatures are better than theirs, so you really only need to kill the engine cards and deathrite shaman....

this wasnt very constructive.

i assume youre playing the matchup wrong. if you know which elves/insects to target, and you have a proper sideboard, elves really is a pretty easy match unless they...

I agree with your take on snare, but elves is NOT one of our worst matchups. I would call it a favorable matchup.

i used to run one and took it out when i lost a couple of games where my opponent was at 2 or less life and i had 1 mana or 2 mana while a thassa was in play. in hindsight, the ice is usually about...

Congrats on your tourney finish.

Long time goose player here. I agree that graffdiggers is mostly useless in most matchups. Its really there for reanimator and dredge, and only has some side...

Those creatures were in half of the top 8 of the last major event, and there was an elf deck to boot.

Submerege goes in against 5/8 decks in the top 8 at scg portland.

with maverick, elves, and RUG all doing well recently, this seems like a really bad time to take submerge out of the board.

Those names confuuse me too. I ask newer players what colors they represent all the time. XD

Its weird how scg has adopted the new khans names, but still aren't using the ravnica ones for u/r...

It adds length to the deck. I agree, in a perfect game, we never need treasure cruise. In my experience, however, its great in the grindier match ups that Im sure youve experienced playing the deck....

just test it. youre right on paper, but not in reality.

maverick is a pretty tough matchup that can become winnable with submerge. its also good vs. elves, BUG, and infect.

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congrats on your finish. did you try testing with 2x cruise? ive found it doesnt hurt goose that much and is great against a lot of matchups. im curious if you tried it and dropped it,...

I dont necessarily agree with that. Even if I were to take that as a given, however, I dont think pyromancer lives to generate 5 1/1s very often in games that you werent going to win without him.
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4 goyf. Im not sold on pyromancer in this deck. I think its a good card, but it doesnt replace mongoose because they are two very different cards with very different purposes in the deck.
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I took RUG delver to a 6-2 (21st) finish in oakland. I almost didnt go because I had been preparing with RUG delver, and then treasure cruise came along and shook my confidence in that build of...