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Grats Jeff. You may want to consider removing Thoughtseize from your sideboard, this is at least the second or third time I've seen you walk into your own chalice with it on turn 2.

I often play turn 2 chalice if I don't have a mox in hand and it works just fine. Matt inspired me to try and find spots for Sylvan Library in the list. 3 Cycle lands sounds low as well, I'm...

Great Sable Stag? Like sweet performance but seriously? What's that card doing?

Batterskull, early game tarmogoyfs, bloodbraid elves, after a dreams to wipe the board. Just a handful of ideas.

Library is the definitely the card I want most badly to run in this deck but can't find the space. I ran a list once with it, and it felt so damn powerful. Not to mention the -absurd- interactions...

Sorry, what's that mean?

What version of this deck isn't slow--and what are you doing beyond breaking her +1 symmetry to make Liliana any better?

// Creatures: 12
4x Tarmogoyf
4x Dark Confidant
2x Countryside Crusher
2x Terravore

// Spells: 23
4x Life from the Loam
4x Punishing Fires
3x Devastating Dreams

Playtested about 12-15 games against Deathblade, piloted by Jupiter NELC champion / legit best esper pilot I've ever witnessed on/off camera, only dropped 2 games. One was to a little unluckiness...

Went 3-1 tonight with the list I posted a page or two ago with punishing groves in it. Tied for second/third/fourth place.

Round 1: ANT 2-1
Game 1: I have the nut against him but he's on the...

Yeah, I've been thinking about cutting the surgical for slaughter games which is most likely what will be happening soon.

Played 10 rounds against Omnitell tonight, went 8-2 against it with the list I posted previously. I'm convinced this isn't a bad matchup whatsoever for my list if I have a chalice or devastating...

Loam's decision trees are substantially more complicated I feel. Maximizing damage with Countryside Crusher and whether or not to dredge have always been things to really consider. I often find...

You may have gotten a little confused here. I'm the one agreeing with you that running PFires with Liliana is basically just a bad Punishing Jund. The upside to PFires Loam is that you can dredge...

See, now, I was literally going to type something close to that out and it might just be it. It was sort of a morbid, "Have we really just reached the conclusion that Punishing Jund is where this...

I mean, Joe Lossett is also like, a straight up fucking god sent from another realm so I can't fault you for losing to him ever haha. Those are all valid points though, I don't have much experience...

Ah that's true I suppose, every time he got a counterbalance up I had the decay for it / sideboard I had the EE to blow out his enchantments.

I -really- don't think going grindier is the way to go nor do you need Punishing Fire / Seismic. I do however, think that Seismic Assault is antiquated after the tournament. I never actually killed...

Jupiter Report: Top 16 with Aggro Loam,

List:
//Creatures: 12
4x Tarmogoyf
4x Dark Confidant
2x Countryside Crusher
2x Terravore

// Instants/Sorceries: 12

Crusher is run in 3c Loam variants, and Hoogland doesn't play them as far as I know..so I'm not sure how that goes towards justifying the 'goodness' of the list. How exactly did he prove the worth...

I'll go ahead and post the list I brewed:

Naya Loam:

4x Tarmogoyf
4x Knight of the Reliquary
3x Thalia / Crusher / Terravore(Up in the air, willing to discuss the merits of this slot)
2x...

I just can't imagine a circumstance where 3c Loam variants are still just as good, but more consistent, and don't lose access to realistic removal spells over his 4c variant.. I think about 0 people...

People regularly top 8 with elves, someone won something with Blouses, someone has won with Pox, people get to top 8 with Affinity, it doesn't make them good decks objectively. Aggro Loam itself...

Sorry, one guy did well with it. Three times.

I'm still thoroughly of the opinion that 4 color loam is just bad. It tries to do too much and isn't focused enough of a deck. One guy did well with it. Once. I'll be shortly experimenting with a...

Bakada, have you ever tried dropping two lands for two Sylvan Library? I made a build that ran them and the card was wildly powerful in it, and I genuinely don't believe you need 26 lands + 4 moxen....