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Ive lost with a turn 1 sire in play... It sucks. I dropped him completely in favor of iona now, theres just way too many outs and its too easy for your opponent to recover compared to you being able...

Congrats to Andrew on a second place finish at the GP.

Great run, looks like he went 13-2 and then being one game short in the finals, losing 2-1 to Reid Duke.

Here's the list that is in the top 8 at GP Louisville


Creature (10)
4 Griselbrand
4 Chancellor of the Annex
1 Sire of Insanity
1 Tidespout Tyrant

Sorcery (20)

This might be completely crazy but any thoughts on Defense Grid as a line against Surgical? As long as you don't bin the creature before you are ready to "go off", it shouldn't be possible for them...

Have you considered the Children of Korlis + Tendrils combo at all? You should be able to win outright with a griselbrand then?

This is worded a little wonky. You need to allow for the Relic or Crypt to resolve, so that the Entomb target doesn't get swept away by the Crypt.

So, it would be as follows:
1) Have creature in...

I didn't see what this was referencing? :confused: Which key interactions are you referring to? I even searched for "Crypt", "Bog" and "Exhume" and didn't find the relevant piece.



Pack Rat is...

Great job, really enjoyed it. Helped me learn how to play the deck better as well and when to mulligan.

I still think Sire is better than Jin tho :tongue: but to each their own.

Yep this is my experience too, now Miracles are switching to Fairies/Surgical because they know they aren't fast enough to land a RiP. This is why I'm going with the Stronghold Gambit + Discard /...

This is what I've been testing - sideboard changes almost weekly, just can't seem to get something I like... :/

Creatures
4 Simian Spirit Guide
1 Sire of Insanity
4 Chancellor of the...

Seems if you play unmask you need to cut either CB, Thoughtseize or spirit guides. I'm struggling with this as well. Unmask was better than I expected but I still miss the spirit guides for explosive...

But you still 2 for 1 yourself with Unmask as well, and you don't get the ability to remove a Deathrite (or similar) in the process? Not to mention, the best part of Brutality is being able to throw...

I haven't been too impressed with Sire either. When I play a card like that turn one and still lose, it makes it hard to pick anything outside Griselbrand (with a few exceptions) when deciding what...

Oh that makes perfect sense, I just misunderstood the original post :)

The only drawback to that is having to show your opponent your hand, as was mentioned, but it's quite possible it'll be far...

Thanks for the feedback, always great to hear people are enjoying legacy :)

One comment but how were you binning a creature with unmask? It gets exiled, no? That's why I have been using...

We were just discussing the SCG Classic open 4th place list, welcome to the forum :)

What were your matches? Would you make any changes at all to the main or SB?

Any comments about the event,...

Yeah, exactly this ^ which is unfortunate, as Unmask would be an auto 4x include if that weren't the case :tongue:

Right now I'm finding Collective Brutality to be quite good! I love it when I can...

I'm new to this deck myself but I've been pulling in sneak attacks against Eldrazi, in addition to anything with strong gy manipulation. They are famous for playing 4x Leyline of the Void and that's...