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What are your percentages for going off with this build sun tzu?

Sensei's Divining Top + Words of Waste can let you shut your opponents out of all of their non-instant spells. A non-bo with Suppression Field, certainly, but do you need one if you have the other?
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A 4th Argothian Enchantress is better than a 2nd Green Sun's Zenith. No question there. You don't have an Eternal Witness or anything that would make the 2nd Zenith better. The only thing I could...

@smurphy:
If you're not seeing a lot of targeted removal like Swords, etc., Sun Titan seems like a decent replacement/kill condition in place of Replenish #2/3.

Have you considered cutting a kill...

Freggle:
forestfold was lamenting that the meta is shifting to more matchups that are unfavorable for him (BUG, Elves and he's not sure about Jund). ESG responded to his Jund concern very well: the...

If your meta is full of bad players who are willing to counter it, it doesn't matter which you play. None of the arguments offered here support actually running Guile over Top. Those same opponents...

Using your turn 1 to cast Mirri's Guile instead of acceleration (or if you're running Chrome Mox, a 2-coster) is not free. You lose tempo for some card selection in the next few turns. Mirri's Guile...

So everyone is still of the opinion that Mirri's Guile is strictly better than Sensei's Divining Top? It sounds like a top would have made madmen420's game against Esper Blade a lot easier, allowing...

I've tested the second and it's often not better than your normal plan. For something like that, you need something that is strictly better.

So why has no one considered running both Replenish and Rest in Peace in the same deck. I see a lot of lists running Chrome Mox. There are a lot of matchup where neither card matters and a few where...

A hybrid is not going to work well at all. You just lower the consistency of both plans.

You can fit the Words of Wind engine into the regular shell without much trouble.

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@ForlornEgoist
You are comparing the kill condition to hate cards? I'm very confused. You should be making an argument about why Sigil/WoW is better and talking about why.

RUG: Sigil comes down...

There are a few things I would note with this list:
1. Mirri's Guile is not very good here. You have loads of redundancy across your cards with 11 ways to stall pretty much indefinitely. These could...

What's with people disparaging Emrakul alongside Humility. If you land Humility, you have the tools to win against most decks. If you need the Emrakul win, just use an Oblivion Ring and then...

I don't think Defense of the Heart was the hugely relevant card that got played. It was more fo the Energy Field/Wheel of Sun and Moon combo.

@Freggle
I ran Energy Fields for a very long time. I...

Your game plan can shift a little bit now. White is basically in the deck for Sterling Grove, Enlightened Tutor, Moat (less and less), and Solitary Confinement. Because those are the colors we like,...

If you cast Emrakul, I don't think you care if it's an enchantment.

Getting to my wit's end at the theorycrafting on blue. All kill conditions are great kill conditions when you have 3-4 Enchantress effects out and a Solitary on the board. This is undeniably true and...

You'd be best off checking out the win conditions listed in the thread if you're going to try for something competitive.

Generally new suggestions for win conditions should address something that...

75% seems awfully low. I have at least a 95% concession rate on the games I win.

Having to give up 8-10 draws does not a best win condition make. It has become bog standard as an alternative win condition. Sigil is definitely the best win condition.

Sigil of the Empty Throne is an excellent win condition. It will win the game incidentally while you do your thing. A+ win condition.

Emrakul is an okay win condition. It gives you minor...

You can run a 1-of Karakas to set up infinite turns with Emrakul where Annihilator wins it for you. Your other option is to sneak in a Words of Wind either in your board or your maindeck.

Here's a...

Words of Wind does not require that you have 10 draws to dump into your winning the game. Words of Wind feeds into itself. The missed draws are replaced by enchantments in your hand, rather than...

Masamune, I would recommend cutting it (or running Sigil in its slot) and seeing if you ever wish that slot was Words of War. I don't think you'll look back again.

Words of War tends to be a...