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Why looking for Zoo stuff?

3 Pte is really flexible, they are good against Zoo, Dredge, any kind of Tribal and most other creature based strategies. There are hardly any other cards that do this...

Counterspell > Pierce

As well as EE + Cunning Wish. Mana intesive builds tend to perform better if they have the time to set up, so I assumed this from your list =).


For Graveyard hate you...

From the list it seems to be more geared towards a slower metagame.

Ok, like Felidae said: You need more Lands. Personally I wouldn't touch a version with less than 23, more are better. Since you...

Loam is cute and all but when i tested it i hated it =).
The other thing I don't see: Why Canonists? Since you removed Top CB is no longer viable, but if you want combohate on a stick MM should get...

Jace is cool indeed, however he does not fin into this deck IMHO (feel free to prove me wrong^^)

Instant speed really matters a lot. Legacy is blistering fast right now and as a contol deck you...

Zoo is not as bad as it looks, props to the Goyfs. You hardly loose to creatures only, most of the time you end up with control and X life. The old Landstill lists have the problem that they cannot...

Mh, Explosives are 3 Mana just to take care of a Nacatl.

I have tested this against Zoo quite some time and can honestly say it has a positive MU right now. The main problem I see with Explosives...

RogueMTG:

I think it were about 50 players there

Matchups:
Dreadstill Win
Belcher Win
Survival Win
Merfolk Win
Aggro Loam ID

I went 6th in Iserlohn February with my new list =):


// Lands
2 [UNH] Plains
3 [UNH] Island
4 [AQ] Mishra's Factory (1)
3 [ZEN] Misty Rainforest
4 [B] Tundra
3 [A]...

OMG that list looks awesome =).


@Brackmarsch:
Yeah, it's Marsh Flats, I wrote down the german name by mistake =). I'll think about the report, problem is i only have a couple of notes and none...

Played this some time ago in a a small tournament:


4 Tundra
4 Mishras Factory
4 Flooded Strand
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Polluted Delta
1 Windswept Heath
1 Brackmarsh

You refer to Beatdown as the act of attacking, but I think the more fitting definition is to place it in the role the deck is playing.

Goblins vs Landstill is Beatdown
Goblins vs Zoo is...

Well, i think the oppinons range wide because beatdown is not clearly defined.

Flores just talks about a situation where the faster deck should make the first move (creatures!), referring to this...

The quote was kinda meant as a joke^^

Well, the thing is that Flores is talking about similar decks (I guess you could say decks with the same goldfish) and that is clearly not the situation here....

Well, i think its similar, just because you might attack earlier than in other MUs you are still not taking the aggro role. I think of it more as an opportunity strike (and a necessary one at that). ...

Most recent list?
From all the 2-colour stuff ive seen so far this semms like the most solid.

Whats the reason for no Eternal Dragon, you just don't like him or is it something more in-depht?
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@Shugyosha:

Tnx, that list looks like something to work with :D; i have some question though:

Why the stone? Disk seems stronger since it lets you Walkers live and costs less mana

2 FoF and...

Ok, i could use a little help here from people who have more of an idea of this deck than I do. I've played a budget version for quite some time, and i kinda like the deck so i really want to build a...