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  1. Thread: UW Sagas

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    Re: UW Sagas

    Court of Cunning is a liability if your opponent controls a cheap creature, Omen of the Forge is useful if your opponent controls a cheap creature.

    It's nice to think like "oh if you have estrid +...
  2. Thread: UW Sagas

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    I think the maindeck Endurance in control decks pushes Sevinne's Rec out a little bit (and it was already a bit clunky)
    I think I'd rather just play more / cheaper estrid targets

    20 Lands
    4...
  3. Thread: UW Sagas

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    Endurance is not a "Banedrifter", it's loaming shaman with reach and flash.
    You do need to go "relatively deep" to build a better Uro but I'm already doing that lol (why else play cards like History...
  4. Thread: UW Sagas

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    Yeah like if you take my suggestion and just straight swap white for black then you get something like this

    2 Underground Sea
    2 Tropical Island
    1 Bayou
    4 Misty Rainforest
    4 Prismatic Vista
    1...
  5. Thread: UW Sagas

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    I don't totally hate the idea of being BUG because I think using Sarcomancy is okay (1 mana for that effect can be a significant upgrade even if you only get 1x 2/2), but I don't really like Riptide...
  6. Thread: UW Sagas

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    Don't get hung up on the idea of being a tokens deck: Monastery Mentor makes tokens, but if anyone suggested playing Glorious Anthem or Opposition to 'combo' with Mentor then it would rightly be seen...
  7. Thread: UW Sagas

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    I don't think cabal therapy is actually an effect that the deck wants

    Binding the Old Gods I don't think is very good either. The deck doesn't make super good use of the ramp (this is a 4mana card...
  8. Thread: UW Sagas

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    I don't think the Class level ups are copiable

    I think the Estrid + Saga allows to overrun with tokens without needing to invest other cards to pump them.
    The GW / UG sagas are ok but I think...
  9. Thread: UW Sagas

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    New weird kind of enchantment



    So this is quite interesting because
    1) It does the similar kind of Sarcomancy effect that its an enchantment that makes a token on etb that costs less than 3...
  10. Thread: UW Sagas

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    Copying Urza's Sage doesn't even seem that good to me
    Like you already have to pay 2 to make a construct from the original saga
    Then to take advantage of the Estrids you have to pay an additional 2...
  11. Thread: UW Sagas

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    The 2nd part of this is comment is mostly true but I disagree with the first part
    Even copying something like Abundant Growth you have painless Phyrexian Arena which also triggers when it etb, which...
  12. Thread: UW Sagas

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    I think if you have to find additional payoffs then the deck isn't good enough.

    Estrids Invocation is potentially really powerful but the pool of things to copy with it isn't very good
    - Omen of...
  13. Thread: UW Sagas

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    Yes it's quite interesting
    However I think Sagas are not enough of an incentive to play Replenish compared to Shark Typhoons

    For example this was a deck I liked pre-MH2

    4 Prismatic Vista
    4...
  14. Thread: UW Sagas

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    I understand that Scroll Rack is likely better than Soothsaying, it still has the problem of
    1) Costs quite a lot of mana (2 to cast plus activations)
    2) Unlike divining top it can't ever cantrip...
  15. Thread: UW Sagas

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    Scroll rack is like almost-ok but I think it costs too much mana. I have tried Soothsaying in the past for a bit, and it was disappointing in a way that I expect to be similar.

    Curfew is only good...
  16. Thread: UW Sagas

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    Problem with medomais is that the synergy with Invocation isn't very good
    I think I prefer spreading seas the most for that slot

    I think the only reason island sanctuary became popular was...
  17. Thread: UW Sagas

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    Re: UW Sagas

    Tournament report with a slightly updated build of this
    0-2 vs Lotus Cobra Maverick
    G1 Im off to an ok start but I can't find the plow for the depths kill he is setting up
    G2 I'm off to an ok...
  18. Thread: UW Sagas

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    This is potentially a home for the new 1U landfall hate enchantment
    - a cmc 2 enchantment that draws a card on etb is synergistic with Estrids Invocation
    - the ability stacks in multiples, so if...
  19. Thread: UW Sagas

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    Re: UW Sagas

    I didn't want to make a new thread for this even thought it's more like a standstill list than Saga, because it developed from the same shell:

    [20 Lands]
    1 Mystic Sanctuary
    1 Tundra
    2 Plains
    4...
  20. Thread: UW Sagas

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    I think they mean Tymaeret Calls the Dead

    After playing with the History version quite a bit I'm pretty sure it doesn't need both History + Tymaeret or History + Sharknado
  21. Thread: UW Sagas

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    Part of what makes that idea appealing to me is that if you play Sharknado instead of History of Benalia then your WW commitment is significantly reduced, so you can cut a lot of the plains from the...
  22. Thread: UW Sagas

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    Re: UW Sagas

    Yorion might be ok, the deck is creatureless so it can also just play Kaheera as well

    Shark Typhoon is also interesting, some kind of Sharknado/Standstill/Nodes/Replenish control deck is tempting...
  23. Thread: UW Sagas

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    Thinking about this deck again

    I think the core of the deck is this 50:
    Those 20 Lands
    4 Brainstorm
    4 Ponder
    4 Plow
    4 Force
    4 Omen
    4 History
  24. Thread: UW Sagas

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    I considered various splits of these effects e.g.
    4x Omen of the Sun 1x Dawn of Hope
    4x History of Benalia 1x Omen of the Sun
    In the end I decided that playing 4x History was correct because of...
  25. Thread: UW Sagas

    by kombatkiwi
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    Re: UW Sagas

    I made some slight changes to the above list:

    Main:
    -1 Dovin's Acuity
    +1 Dawn of Hope
    Side:
    -1 Dawn of Hope
    +1 Flusterstorm

    And played to the following record over side events at GP Nagoya:
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