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Make it a Planeswalker that can be activated multiple times so it can't just be Show and Telled in.

It's almost like it has a drawback and not just a free win....

Nah. No one would do that.




Again, why isn't this dominating? If people know how to hate it out, why not just let that deal with it? Otherwise, you'd just keep banning the best fatty out...

What would be cool is if he could say that clearly instead of being ambiguous. Look, more than three words.

That's not true though. Vapor Snag, Path to Exile and Karakas are all very good answers. Even if they draw.




That's just ridiculous and flies in the face of real world results. If this was...

Be more clear.

So Griselbrand should be banned because Survival was banned?

So why isn't Griselbrand dominating everything?

The fact is, people figured out a lot of ways to either deal with Griselbrand and/or prevent it from coming into play. You should look at recent...

I don't know that Goblins qualifies as an aggro deck.*

Which is sort of the point. No, there is no dedicated or pure control deck. Just like there is no dedicated or pure aggro deck. Nothing is...

Are there viable Aggro decks?

I'm not arguing for any of those to be banned, but looking at a datum point is pretty silly. Which is what the other people were sarcastically saying. Stop making arguments based on one tournament.

That's my point. You can cast Emrakul off of Omniscience. I understand that you kill them immediately. I just didn't know if giving them the ability to cast spells for free, counterspell, etc......

Does it backfire very often? Is casting Emrakul relevant?

Agreed. I guess it comes down to how often you would hard cast a Dream Halls vs how often giving the ability to cast freely backfires. In all likelihood, it is cast very rarely, but backfires even...

But not having to discard a card to make this work and not being symmetrical makes this worse?

I think he was more thinking that if it allowed your opponent to put a Walker into play, it would be more balanced.

People keep saying things like that (they can ban Ponder, but not Snapcaster because of rotation schedule, etc...) but you guys realize that it is perfectly possible for them to ban Snapcaster now...

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That's really funny.

You're just encouraging him to continue to make really dumb statements.

Guys, he's a troll. That's about all he does.

So you're going to continue your typical "argument" tactics. Have fun with that.

The decklist and testing results against Tier 1 decks proving that your new deck is completely busted and destroys the field and will continue to once decks react to your busted deck.

Drago, what they're saying is: put up or shut up. And you're refusing to put up...

Agreed. People are running Mana Leak over Counterspell because it is so much easier to cast. Double anything puts a significant strain on mana bases. Especially spells you want to cast early.