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Actually not sure how Counterbalance fairs against the 3cc goodies. I remember far more cries on Top, and they did not touch it until the sign at their parking lot.

Which one is more oppressive:
Astrolabe + Oko + Uro
Top + Counterbalance + Terminus
Insectile Aberration + Wasteland + Stifle

Remember Legacy has 20/20, 10drils, and Griselbrand.

Chalice decks are kept in check by Wasteland. Not a coincidence most succesful Chalice decks in Legacy use Moon effects.
Chalice is one of the easiest card to play around: Diversify the curve. With...

I feast on those decks by Chalice of the Void. It is a lot closer with Brainstorm to dig for Counterspells turn1 and shuffling away dead cards. Xerox would be a healthy and fair deck once their...

Yes and no. Ponder and Preordain are powerful, yet completely fair effects.
Banning Brainstorm would hurt blue combo decks the most.
Blue value decks would still have an edge over combo, but the...

True, Deafening Silence is an encouraging step, Legacy would benefit from more quality hates at :r: or :g:.



Definitely a good deck list: focused game plan, built in redundancy/consistency, no...

1. Subjectivity is unavoidable.
2. Subjectivity is unavoidable. Yes, in-game decision is a big part of the game, but so is deck building/metagaming/consistency.
3. A great example of subjective...

We are in the same camp. Would you prefer playing with Brainstorm or Top + Probe + Shaman + etc. ? The etc. also include fetchlands and future candidates to sacrifice in favor of Brainstorm.

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On one hand, WotC was not so foolish to ban Counterbalance or Terminus. On the other hand, banning Top is not as smart, and they had to follow with Probe and Shaman bans, and the format did not get...

This. Legacy needs a shorter banlist. Otherwise, we will be seeing Modern 2.0 in terms of WotC manipulation or Vintage 2.0 in terms of pillars.
By the way, unrestrict Brainstorm in Vintage please...

Now you are talking about efficiency rather than the colour pie.
The colour pie is actually NOT about which colour can/cannot do which, but rather which colour should do which things best, i.e.,...

True Name Nemesis and Delver of Secrets giggle. Next step blue gets an Unsummon with the clause 'The creature can not be cast for the remainder of the game.' :eyebrow:

Like many others, I don't hate Brainstorm. I love Brainstorm, and own ~30 copies to play it across several Legacy decks. You can also tell I love playing blue. The last card I own as many that is not...

I can give you some credits if you are decoding WotC'S thought process. However, suggesting Legacy-Brainstorm < Modern is plain absurd, unless you mean Legacy < Modern, which has nothing to do with...

Both are superpowers, yes, but it is yet another missed opportunity to lock down Brainstorm, the most broken card in Legacy for years.
Do people really want a Legacy format with pillars? Maybe, if...

The original statement is Thoughtseize would be relevant again in nonblue decks against blue combos, does it still knock your nerves :smile:

Like ReAnimator and Megadeus have said, decks such as...

Loud applaud! Most unban candidates would do nothing to the meta, and my biggest opposition is to people suggesting ban X to solve Legacy rather than Brainstorm.
Banning Brainstorm would hurt blue...

Fetchlands are a big mistake. They are 10 cards though, and hence very inconvenient to ban. I do hope they are banned one day, or if never, at least Brainstorm.
Fetchlands are not doing good to...

I see merits in both arguments of Finn's and yours.
I am sure as innocent as Brainstorm still appears to many people today, the banning of Cruise, Dig, and Top was not intended to save Brainstorm....

I agree with your assessment on the blue shell advantage, but it does not mean Brainstorm should not be axed.
It is dangerous to group Brainstorm together with other cantrips, as Brainstorm clearly...

Good job at quoting the 'relevant' half, it was clearly meant to show the Ancestral/Brainstorm comparison is not fitting.

This does not mean Brainstorm is an innocuous card. Some people like to...

Duress your FOW, good luck with Ancestral :cool: What, you Brainstorm :eek:
Not suggesting Brainstorm is better, but it is clearly a broken card when the drawback is mitigated. No other cards give...

I ask the same question to Lemnear.
1 DRS in Spanish Inquisition is an established way for Summoner's Pact -> Chrome Mox imprint, while being 1 cc as Culling the Weak fodder. They used to play...

Pretty sure Megadeus was referring to Council's Judgment, as Terminus is actually hosed by Teeg.
I agree both True Name Nemesis and Council's Judgment are wrong Magic cards, but 3 cmc and 2 coloured...

If the format were primarly 3-color decks, we'd expect 60% of them to contain blue...