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    I believe Goblins has declined over the last 4 years because the ultimate turn has moved from 4 to 3, or maybe verging on 2 at this point. Burn has also declined over that timespan but it shares...
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    Miracles piloted by a mediocre player is a 40/60 list. A lot of mediocre players pilot Miracles. It has a long learning curve and when you make mistakes you lose games. Obviously the information...
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    UW non-Miracles Control
    BUG Control
    Junk
    RUG Control (yes, actually existed with Natural Order until Terminus came along, would exist again in a heartbeat if Terminus or SDT was banned)
    Various...
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    The problem is that Miracles is pervasive in the meta and a very high percentage of the top tables, particularly the draw bracket, will be Miracles. That aggro lists can't beat Miracles is pretty...
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    The only list there that really qualifies is Grixis Control. RG Lands has the percentages it does because nobody metagames against it. Very few people know how to play against it. Rest in Peace...
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    This is probably true but giving them a split cost of non-blue is not one of those ways. If it was Abrupt Decay wouldn't have folded into BUG like a bug in a rug.

    The obvious design type would be...
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    Miracles tends to top other control lists. It's a turn faster at getting setup than most control lists and it's really hard to win through the creature removal if you're playing just a few high...
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    A really good aggro card that was printed at r/g r/g instead of rr would just fold into RUG Delver. Think about it. Volcanic Island, Tropical Island, win.
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    Assuming Miracles doesn't get nerfed somehow Survival of the Fittest is going to be dealing with putting 2 Vengevines on the bottom of their library during their attack step.

    More hostile isn't...
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    Survival of the Fittest is a whole different thing when people are playing main list disenchant effects (Abrupt Decay and Council's Judgement) and when Rest in Peace is available and commonly played...
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    Impossible? The guy with counters is going to control when the opponent puts Teeg back in their hand and then they'll do whatever they needed to do at that point. It's a good place for Maverick to...
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    Miracles is the list that is making Little Bear aggro hopeless unless it's taxing heavily. Even the bear designed to stop people from drawing too many cards does nothing at all against an EoT...
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    Because SDT, Ponder and Preordain would keep Terminus sitting on creature aggro. There'd be additional inconsistency in the form of hands with a Terminus or two in the opening hand but it'd still be...
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    SDT is an enabler of fast spikes these days. It just lets them play lists that will win 80% of the time if they get to turn 4.

    A card that wins when resolved on turn 1 as often as SDT does is...
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    Terminus too. The card sits on any list planning to play creatures for profit in the attack step.
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    SDT is clearly a broken card in Miracles. It's one of the few cards in the format where the opponent resolving it turn 1 of game 1 will make me consider conceding the game immediately to have a...
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    It's not just blue cards. Where are Tasigur, the Golden Fang, Gurmag Angler and Murderous Cut going to be used to best effect? In a blue shell with lots of fetches and cantrips hitting the...
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    You're making my point for me though. You're right, all of those guys work better in the blue shell than in shells based around their color also.

    The point about Goyf is that before he showed up...
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    Goyf works best in the blue shell. That's when he's at his best as a threat. If he worked better in Jund or Junk or Naya then those lists would be in a better place than they are right now. If he...
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    I'm not sure I'm on board with this characterization of the jump. I think Delver made a real impact but I also think we've seen a big impact in the last year. 50%+ in 2008-2009, 60%+ in 2011-2012,...
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    The fact that the argument over Brainstorm is raging at this point in a format in which 70%+ of the best lists incorporate it has to be embarrassing to WotC on some level. My best guess is that...
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    Lands is doing what it is doing because it is an outlier list in which the player playing it has a lot of experience against various archetypes and the player being crushed has almost no experience...
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    There's no draw in that sequence so you're talking a Magical Christmas Land 6 out of 7. The odds are at least as good of an insta-kill out of Storm combo turn 1.

    There's no question that Fastbond...
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    It would be bonkers but in a format defined by cards like Delver of Secrets, Deathrite Shaman, Lion's Eye Diamond, Show and Tell, Terminus, etc, why are some turn 3 kill cards banned? It just makes...
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    Fastbond would make Loam-lock attempts much more consistent. It would let Lands put Rishadan Port into play effective on turn 1. It would probably resurrect Crucible of Worlds for the infinite...
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