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    You didn't address his point. D&T gets Wrathed by KReturn but other decks don't.

    The fact is is that Maverick, DGA, Zombardment, and other decks all can handle regular wraths.
    - Mav via Teeg and...
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    First, KReturn is the likely next sweeper because it's instant; making it cost 4 at most with Thalia on the field.
    Second, Mav locks out Verdict with Safekeeper or Mom next to Teeg. Miracles...
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    (premise 1)
    Well, and I don't see why this would still make D&T better than Maverick. Maverick, historically, rolls D&T since it has main-decked artifact-hate; meaning it gets to use its equips and...
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    First, you've changed your argument from "UW would go away" to "Grixis would take over"; neither of which are true. UW would stick around in stoneblade; Grixis *does* have bad MUs. You may even see...
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    Are you seriously suggesting that Miracles is what's keeping D&T from being a larger portion of the meta? When D&T was at its zenith, it was tied for when Jund was at its zenith. While the format was...
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    It's also notable that Probe was most used in Combo and DRS was most used in "Fair"; hitting both sides slowed both sides down. Combo has to go off in the dark or with protection more often, while...
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    I may be a week late but..
    The absolute madmen!

    This is interesting as I literally entered legacy right around when DRS was printed, so I've never been in a format where it wasn't the best T1...
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    On the Jund Junk thing; it's really just a problem of Force. Force of Black n Green isn't a thing and it won't be; as will any on-the-stack-interesting-spell.

    To make it properly competitive we...
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    They are valuable when speaking in generalities like "Your deck will lose to all Unfair decks." Why? Because it's a way of saying "you have too much aggro/removal and no reliable interaction."

    In...
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    Indeed, I've seen newbie storm players and newbie Miracles players who just picked up the deck blow out a tournament.
    I believe there's some number of RUG Delver guys who have blown out SCGs right...
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    Honestly, I think the format is very accessible..

    For badlands, plateau, taiga, and scrubland.

    Honestly, if WotC made a couple WR,, BR, WG, and WB powerhouses you could get a player-boost a la...
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    I think he's saying it displays a card's power level when it's the capstone to 4+ deck archtypes (Painter, 12-Post, Miracles, DDFT) and that them all falling into relative obscurity after it's ban...
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    Things I find odd:
    * "Don't bring your opinion in here, this is fact based !1!!"
    -> This is literally an opinion thread. It's a thread specifically for people to vent their frustrations with...
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    Probe being banned would basically (probably) swap Grixis Delver for BUG Delver, Grixis Control for BUG Control (.. maybe*) and.. that's about it.

    The main thing about Probe is that it makes the...
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    oh Dice... what happened to your scruples?!

    If you put his pet deck in the DTB you have to everyone's decks into DTB.
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    I would hate to dig through years of Rosewater's blogs, but I mentioned in "Current State of Magic" that the answer I got from Rosewater himself when I queried on Mind Twist (because even years ago...
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    I think Ponder is way more consistent than Brainstorm. If you don't have a pair of lands in your opener, Brainstorm almost requires a mulligan or brass balls to hope your draw + BS doesn't brainlock...
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    If I was to whine in here, it'd be GProbe. I can't say it's OP or over-used in general, but you'll be hard pressed to make it through an MTGO match without being Probed T0. Very annoying for people...
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    I could be wrong, but I think Show and Tell has a good Storm MU; since it can end the game T2/T3 pretty easily, but packs reasonable countermagic. It's sideboard can also spell doom, between Blasts,...
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    Maybe it's the gin and tonic laughing, but I got a good crack out of this
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    Agreed, but that's not a typical meta IME. Most are 25-35% combo or so, in which case Force often becomes the best (maindeck) card you can get, especially in turns 1 and 2. Any ultra-fair meta will...
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    I really think Ponder is fine now. A lot of lists are foregoing ponder (not delver) in order to have a more diverse mainboard or just not get stuck with it in hand when our Leord and master hit the...
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    Probe's fine imo. I think it may actually make Storm worse a lot of the time, just because a Therapy already hits 100% of what you care about usually. It could reduce consistency since it's a "blank"...
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    Sort of. While you can average the manacost of Storm and get something like .75 life per card; YawgBarg gives you the ability to unrestrict the mana cost of cards again. You can just run 3 and not be...
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    Not to mention that it's card disadvantage. Delver can deal with 1-for-1's and try to get you early, and run some 1-for-2s; but I don't think any delver player voluntarily does a 1-for-0 except...
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