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Holy crap and I was told I make bold claims. Get your head out of the sand dude. Solidarity was t1 alongside Thresh and Goblins, to there goes point #3. #4 you hit right, and point #5 and is just...

Honestly after I made that post I felt dumb, as it feels from reading it back myself that I'm trying to pull you into a debate. Sorry, did not mean to do that. Still this is a forum, and forums...

It only produces mana if you resolve a High Tide. And if I am resolving High Tide->Frantic search I rather resolve of the the 3 other 2-card combos in Legacy and just get it over with. Also, how much...

Are you referring to Show and Tell, and Griselbrand as the do nothing cards? What the hell is High Tide? A do-something card? To win with a High Tide deck I need to, you know, resolve High Tide...

Saying fetch lands are auto-includes in mono-colored decks is disingenuous. They are only "auto-includes" if said decks run Brainstorm (see: High Tide) or run some card that makes use of the decks...

Please, stop discussing fetchlands. It's the most brain-dead idea I have ever heard of. Ban duals, force people to run Ravnica duals. Problem solved mana-investment wise, Legacy just got probably...

What is this fetchland ban infatuation? Shocklands people.... shocklands.

Ponder can't be considered a "holy cow" though. It's only been around since Lorwyn. A "holy cow" for me has to be, at the very least, pre-Onslaught printing. Brainstorm, FoW? Sure, keep em'. Ponder...

Yeah, so why not just ban the dual lands, and force us to fetch into Ravnica duals? You would breath life into the format in making any aggressive strategy very viable again, and would remove the...

You can still play Grixis Delver, it just wont be as strong. Hymn, SCM, TSeize, Gurmang/SScavenger, Fatal Push, and company all make a pretty decent Delver variant. No mini-planeswalker or Probing my...

We get it, but none of us want to play without our fetches man. You will not win anyone over, no matter how much you make sense, I don't agree with that trash! Good points, but no way, Jose. How bout...

Go play with Opt or Peek for a while, and report back.

Can we trade Show and Tell for Dig through Time? I promise Dig through Time would enable some funky x4 DTT control lists. Please?

I can live with a ban on Ponder and GP if you just unban my sweet,...

I'm honestly gutted to see Top go, as much as I hated CB-Top. Posted this on another thread, but I basically started playing "real" Magic in Extended 2007 when CB-Top Goyf/Confidant BUG deck won the...

No, the point is ubiquity is why it should go, and why some others cards should go as well, or have gone as well. TC and DTT are both good examples of this, combined with being big hitters. Also,...

Brainstorm isn't my metric. It's an oppresive card that is played in every list that has Islands and isn't Merfolk. Why would I want to to now play vs a Deathrite in everything but combo just because...

I wanted to shitpost, and probably will at the end of the post, but I rather add my two cents. I think what gets people riled up the most in the community in when cards become ubiquitous, and phase...

Load it up on Cockatrice vs UB Faeries, basically the Miracles of Lorwyn standard. You beat 4 Spellstutters, 4 Cryptics, and a couple Slaughter Pacts, and you win bud, you win.

Mana Drain you, untap, Mind Twist on t3? Oh god...

Another day Frantic Search stays on the banned list, another cut on my wrists. My Tide deck went back to shit after the DTT ban.

The High Tide mana-base? You mean a mana-base built strictly of fetchlands, and basics, with maybe a miser Udual for some funky splash in the sb for Electrickery and REB's or Hunting Pack and Kgrip?...

I'm not sure there was lack of proper sb hate against Loam, or even md hate vs them. It's kind of like when someone said earlier that they were disappointed that DTT was so poorly represented in this...

Just when I thought I read it all. Somebody trying to explain to us that Terminus isn't really that bad, and we are just overextending into the Wrath. Duh! I'm such an idiot, all this time I've been...

Oh shit. Look what I did. Remember that now, and really hated that. It does bog a game down sometimes, but I don't think a card should be banned on that basis.

That's your opinion. It might still see oodles of play, and could possibly still be the best thing you can be doing with your mana, but if old extended (2007-2009) could handle CB-Top and not have it...