Starting with a 1/3 creature, the effects are applied in this order:
Layer 7a - nothing
Layer 7b - nothing
Layer 7c - -0/-1 is applied -> it's a 1/2 creature
Layer 7d - nothing
Layer 7e - P/T...
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Starting with a 1/3 creature, the effects are applied in this order:
Layer 7a - nothing
Layer 7b - nothing
Layer 7c - -0/-1 is applied -> it's a 1/2 creature
Layer 7d - nothing
Layer 7e - P/T...
Incorrect.
Adding and removing abilities takes place in the same layer. Therefore timestamp decides what happens.
Basically yes.
It's a bit more complicated, but generally equipment works very well with Humility.
An example:
Interaction between Humility and Sword of Fire and Ice.
They won't have Flying.
All lands are creatures.
All lands lose all abilities (in particular, they don't produce mana anymore).
They are
a) 1/1 if first NR entered the battlefield, then came Humility
a) 2/2 if...
No, it doesn't.
Show and Tell puts both permanents onto the battlefield at the same time. This means there is never a moment when Terastodon actually has its abilities, so it can never trigger.
It's not really a question, but rather an answer to a question that might show up soon:
Yes, Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre is a creature-based answer to Humility (the 1st one I know of).
You...
Painter applies in Layer 5.
Humility's first effect applies in Layer 6.
So when Humility removes Painter's ability, the color-changing has already taken place.
All triggered abilities...
That's true, but that's not the point.
The point is, that Glorious Anthem has always been in a different layer than Humility, while Giant Growth used to be in the same layer as Humility, thus...
With the release of M10, the new comprehensive rules contain a revision of the layer-system, thus affecting several Humility-interactions:
Some examples of new interactions:
- Painter's...
Just out of curiosity:
Does Humility make a deck full of Relentless Rats illegal? :smile:
Or does their (second) ability apply "as long as <this> is in your library"?
Mishra becomes a 1/1 temporarily, and the effect still ends at the end of turn. The reason is that the activation includes a duration of the effect. And this is not affected by Humility at all.
Like Anusien said, the CDA (= CSA !? ) thing only works inside each layer, not if the effects apply in different layers.
The basic recipe for all these layer actions is essentially logical.
...
Because the Kobolds' ability is a so-called characteristic-setting ability.
Both Kobolds and Humility (1st effect) are layer 5. Humility is always applied after the Kobolds' CSA. The result...
However, when Humility leaves play, the game remembers which card was chosen for Meddling Mage back then. So after that it can't be played.
Just for clarification: Isn't there a contradiction to the following rules?
If you apply these rules to Magus with Humility in play, you might say that Magus already enters play without his...
This question came up in two German speaking forums, and I would like to know how the American experts handle this problem.
How does Magus of the Moon work with Humility in play?
Explanation a)...
I'm not talking about triggered abilities "When <this> comes into play", but about abilities like that of Ravager that have the form "This comes into play with xy" or "This comes into play tapped"...
All correct, so far. @2: It is always a land, but EoT it stops being a creature. That's what you meant.
All the counters apply, so a 1/1 with 2 counters becoms 3/3, effectively.
The...
Timestamp only applies if two things happen in the same layer.
Humility happens in 6b, Anthem in 6d.
So the critters will ALWAYS be 2/2.
It's even written down in the rules.
That's different. They have trigered/static abilities that work from the graveyard, but in case of Wonder you have to mind the timestamp rule.
If Humility is in play, then Wonder enters the...
I believe that's wrong.
I read this rule 501.b like "the effect does nothing, not even create a new timestamp."
Can anybody confirm or contradict?
To be more precise: if you equip the hammer to the creature after Humility was played, it will have the abilities.
That means, if the hammer is already equipped to a creature and a Humility is...
Yes this works.
The static ability won't be affected by Humility (just as Madness, Affinity etc.). Once the creature is in play, it becomes a 1/1 without any abilites, though, thus the...