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@FTW Ok, that makes sense actually. For now I’m really liking the 15th land and gravecrawler and bloodghast are great, so I’ll see if I miss lotleth troll.

@Mr Safety You’re basically playing a...

What matchups is lotleth troll good against? I've had the most success with it against decks like grixis control, where they have a hard time killing it if it regenerates. Problem is, I just don't...

With gamble in the deck, we can play tutor targets in the sideboard: big game hunter maybe can go to 1 copy, and asylum visitor, coffin purge, and ancient grudge are all good to have access to.
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I cut 3 lotleth troll and 1 carrion feeder (was running 3 of each). Because the deck can more consistently go off by turn 2 now, I didn't feel the need for slower, grindier cards. Lotleth troll has...

Gamble has been amazing so far. I think we should just be playing 4 of it.

The more I think about it, the more I like gamble. It gets discarders if you need one, it gets rootwalla for vengevine, it gets gravecrawler/bloodghast for amalgam and it gets vengevine to just put...

Yeah, I think there's just such a high variance with this deck that we can beat or lose to almost any deck.



There were some of both, but post-board losses were more common. I think a lot of...

Beat: Hypergenesis, manaless dredge x2 (same guy), miracles (1 game), unknown stompy, monoblack reanimator, enchantress, ANT, grixis delver (with bitterblossom), monoblack discard, goblin stompy,...

Yeah that's still definitely a thing, but I still only have about a 50% winrate in mtgo tournament practice with it. Again, I might just be playing it wrong, but idk

Hmm, I haven’t had quite such positive results with the deck, I feel like the deck just mulls to obvilion way too often or I keep a hand that needs one thing to work and I never draw it. It’s...

I’ve actually found wasteland to be pretty bad against our deck unless we get a very slow start. The deck generally wants to dump its hand on turn 1, and I wouldn’t keep a hand with only 1 land if I...

Good points.

I don't think 14/15 lands and 4 lotus petals is enough to support casting 3 mana cards with any reliability. Plus, if you do have 3 lands and legacy/ego, you probably don't have a strong combo and...

You bring up good points, and I never really considered the mostly-rainbow manabase. In general, I've found that by the time your opponents are hating on your lands, you don't need to cast any more...

Also, FTW, I'd play fragmentize or maybe abrupt decay over nature's claim in your sideboard. I get that claim is easier to cast, but you really don't want your opponent gaining life.
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The all-in version doesn’t just lose to combo, you have discard and a fast clock and big game hunter can kill emrakul at instant speed. Miracles is probably a much worse matchup, they can counter...

Don’t get me wrong, the all-in plays are still the best (at least with the 14 lands + petal version). It’s just that you can’t always mulligan to a draw with multiple big creatures on turn 1.
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Oh, and asylum visitor could be a great maindeck or sideboard card given how quickly we dump our hand. Only problem is it might not be enough to set up our combos again, especially the ones involving...

I tried out some games with Hanni's list + a 5 color manabase:

4 Tireless Tribe
4 Hollow One
2 Carrion Feeder
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Prized Amalgam
4 Basking Rootwalla
4 Putrid Imp
4 Lotleth...