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Definitely seems worth testing with Assault, maybe as a singleton GSZ target? Between Assault, Loam, and cycle lands I'd be surprised if this guy didn't win on the spot most of the time.

I'm probably just out of touch as I haven't played the 4c/Kronberger list at all. With the old Jund lists 7 lands wasn't that uncommon. The forest tutor is pretty pointless, but I was thinking of...

Crusher is garbage as a beater, but that was never the point of having him in the deck. The point was that he tutored for a business spell every turn in a deck that ran 25+ lands. That he got huge...

How dare you sully the name of the great H. Ross Perot?!?!

If you're just playing 3 colors though, why not just go with the old standby: Seismic Assault? The cost is rough but not prohibitive in this deck, and neither is really an early-game card anyway.

Personally I would cut some number of Liliana. Swagspear and Pyromancer make her worse at board control, and the discard just isn't as strong as it used to be, even if it's still one-sided. P.Fire...

I *think* two Groves are correct here, except that some of the decks it is very good against will have a ton of grave hate and/or land destruction, especially postboard.



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Lavamancer was best when Merfolk was super everywhere. I think I'd take DRS over it now too, esp. with Punishing fire.

I love PFire/Grove as a combo, but for some reason I really have trouble...

Remember that Spell Pierce is also a thing in Tempo, and with Lili/Seismic being so good against them, cutting that off any time in the first couple turns is good. Daze alone isn't too bad since we...

Totally disagree regarding tempo. Chalice shines in that matchup because they have no removal for it game 1, and it shuts off their burn, so reach + removal for Lili/creatures, and their cantrips,...

I ran Seismic and Lili without DRS or Cairns and without issue. Punishing fire is actually harder because it doesn't play well with fetches or Koth, and with Lili and Abrupt decay in the deck Taiga...

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I played a pretty old-school Jund list for a while recently and thought it was pretty good. Miracles matchup is really solid with Koth and...

Thanks for making me feel old!

Anyway, Wish is really a double-edged sword. On the one hand, you get a bunch of silver bullet answers and a virtual 6-7 copies of Loam in the deck. On the other...

I think what you mean is that BB and RR and GW and BW isn't so easy. BB and RR are pretty doable with Mox/Loam/Fetches. Taiga/Badlands/Mox can cast my whole deck.

Personally, I still like crusher. It's not so much his size but the fact that he filters you to live draws every turn that makes him good. Revealing your first draw is also nice when you have a...

Interesting idea, but I'm wondering if it's any better than Worm Harvest in a loam deck.

Yeah, I went back to Assault from P.Fires basically so I could run more fetches and mountains for Koth postboard. Miracles is the obvious matchup, but really anything that I think is going to have...

Well, Canonist doesn't die to a single Dread of Night, but I think the real reason is that it doesn't work against your own deck as much. Canonist is probably fairly one-sided for Loam, at least in...

Sorry I meant to do this last night, but I ended up getting home really late and didn't get to it. I'll see if I can do most of it from memory:


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Beat burn twice this weekend, but I'm on Jund with basic Mountain/Forest. Chalice on 1 goes a long way. It doesn't shut them down completely but it's enough of a speed bump to let you get some...

If you run basic Forest, just run Krosan Grip. I don't see why you would really bother with Hull Breach unless you're going for a Burning Wish board.

How many Portals, and how fast are you going to find them? Painter runs what, 7 moon effects and a multitude of ways to land them turn 1/2. If you're playing the super greedy 4-colors + Punishing...

Went 3-0-ID this weekend with a pretty classic Jund list. I've gone back to Seismic over P.Fire because I hate having grove in the manabase and I want to be less graveyard dependent postboard. Also...

Eh, mostly you can ignore Blood Moon. Maybe not in super greedy 4c BoM lists, but in regular Jund you just need one Diamond to cast just about the whole deck. Also you're probably going to have...

So I threw Loam back together and went 3-0-1 this weekend, partially off the back of some real bad draws my my opponents. I went the DRS/PFire route, and while DRS is super versatile, I still missed...