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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    I would tap forest and DRS and cast GSZ to find Quirion.
    Activate Quirion, untap DRS. Replay Forest.
    Tap forest to play Heritage.
    Tap DRS, Quirion, Heritage for GGG.
    Play WWS leaving GG in pool....
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Damn, those 7th ed look really nice. I would never have guessed good art out of a core set like that. Personally, I've always had bias towards the oldest set available.
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    Re: [Deck] Elves!

    Rather than play reactive cards to Delver, next time I play some legacy, I'm going to try a small SFM package in the sideboard. It seems like we want to reduce our combo pieces (Glimpse comes to...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    I understand the logic behind BB, but why would our deck need it? We already play 30 creatures. Yes you can rebuild with a single BB after a sweeper, but you can also rebuild with a single Elf if...
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    Re: [Deck] Elves!

    To speak to its contribution, I like that it and/or Summoner's Pact get around Grafdigger's Cage. That card is becoming more ubiquitous in sideboards, although it's typically present only as a 1- or...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    It's not as simple as this for a few reasons. The first main reason is that Elves requires a high density of cards before it can win. And when you've been exhausted of creatures as UWr typically...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    I'm playing a couple Sylvan Library specifically aimed at the UWr Delver mu. They can handle creatures like it's nobody's business, but enchantments aren't their specialty. And if they want an answer...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    If you are playing against combo, you should not side out any 1cc creatures. Not a single one.
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Viridian Shaman on an artifact is very conditional compared to Dryad Arbor because it's a land drop, which is good as long as it isn't the first turn. Beyond that, using your land drop to play Arbor...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Most def on 20 lands. I haven't played a more consistent or resilient version than Nass' list with -1 Priest, -1 Regal, +1 Hoof, +1 Arbor. Viridian Shaman is not in my mb anymore because the...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    You're down to 12 playable first turn lands. So you're dredge, which is not where you want to be. Add another fetch. I'd cut a Birchlore for a 10th fetch too.
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Fetches and the odds of seeing at least one in your opening seven.

    8 = 65.4%
    9 = 70.0%
    10 = 74.1%

    I would not say ~10% is bull. But seriously, do you think LSV, Matt Nass, and Reid Duke were...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    It's been said a dozen times that you need more than eight fetches. There's no opinion behind that, just hard numbers.

    Why are you ignoring Reid's list like it's not better than the...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Hang on. You mean the mana base that LSV and Matt Nass created and we all copied and pasted? You didn't build this mana base.

    Nass report from GP Denver 9 months ago

    I can understand why Reid...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    I was just fishing for the fact he's likely playing two Arbors.
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Completely agree. I always want 14 starting sources, but that's 20 lands because I don't want to drop the second Arbor. I'm curious what Reid's mana looks like.
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Punishing Fire is too slow and inefficient to keep up with our output of elves. They have to pay three to kill our dude that likely cost one. It's mainly a problem when it follows a sweeper or...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    I don't think you've tested without Priest or Regal Force because these were undeniable staples in the old elves deck. I understand they are skeptic changes, and I was highly suspicious when I made...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Meekstone is interesting because RUG has no reason to bring in Ancient Grudge for game two and they may not get a chance for game three. Although, we already have Ooze and Decay, which are also great...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Okay, but what's your rationale? Counterspells hit a lot harder when you have fewer threats in your deck.
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    RUG is going to Daze or Spell Pierce the first thing you offer up. And it makes sense from their side to do so. So obviously you don't walk NO in to those spells if you haven't tested the waters...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    No, it's not. That's the plan against blue decks with counterspells. Against other, faster combo the plan is to land some disruption because they should be faster than any of our "I win" cards.
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    I play two Hoofs in the mb for fatties. Against combo, most of my wins come from anemic beatdown. Teeg is my top priority, and so NO takes a back seat. That's why I've never been keen on Ruric Thar.
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Dammit, I had an entire sb strategy typed out until Chrome decided to reset itself. WTF?! Basically, I'd take this sb:

    4 Therapy
    2 Thorn
    1 Thalia
    1 Teeg
    3 Decay
    2 Ooze
    1 Sliver
    1 Progenitus
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Exactly. Against dredge, TES, ANT, or whatever other broken deck you play, you don't want to side out any of your 1-drop elves. I don't cut Symbiote either for the best possible Glimpse chains as...
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