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Since Julian switched the art, I had the guy who altered my elves deck do a mockup. If only I can find 4 more S-Chinese Glimpse of Natures....

http://i.imgur.com/y8NTawp.jpg

Because of all the fair decks, I was thinking of some less-than expected tech.

I really want to test Thragtusk. It doesn't seem impressive on it's own, but i've had situations where I didn't have...

Running admirably and running optimally are different. Elves without cradles CAN work, similarly to how miracles pre-ban was able to run with no dual lands. However in terms of optimal play, I really...

Here is an elves list I've been testing. It runs ok, but I feel like it ends up being bad because it's slower than traditional elves and a worse grinder than BUG opposition,

Deck: Legacy Elves...

I like Teeg against combo, but I realize leovold is just as good. The issue is Teeg can potentially be GSZ'd out on turn 2 much easier than leovold.

I like what I'm seeing. Progenitus is great. The next question is for the anti-combo creature. So guys, Leovold or Gaddock Teeg? And would you run that MD or SB?

I can see a good SB being:
3...

I was thinking of cutting the 2 MD caverns that has become standard for +1 fetch (for a total of 8) and +1 tropical island/savannah/taiga (depending on what your SB is). Taiga seems the weakest...

At x=3, it costs the same as the other nissa but is free draw every turn.

BUG elves sound good. Coiling oracle + elvish visionary = tons of cards

I'm a fan of 1 nissa main over leovold with the scooze on the side. This setup allows better grinding against miracles and BGx.

How good is leovold? I've been running silkweaver elite in that slot and it's been good with wire wood symbiote.

Not a good card IMO. Too narrow and easily answered.

I wish we had an elf that gave our guys unconditional hexproof or uncounterability.

I know this has been discussed but if you're so set on beating terminus or entreat, why not play chaos elves with chord of calling? Chord for Gaddock Teeg with the miracle trigger on the stack. Sure...

Time to shitpost. Do you know what would make our deck pretty good? a 3 CMC green planes walker something along the lines of

Nissa, *insert title*
GGC
Starting loyalty: 3
+1: Untap target land...

Sorry for the late reply, but your SB is 14 cards. What is the 15th?

EDIT: jk mobile sucks I see it

Since this thread is quiet and out lists are already optimized except for a few meta-dependent flex slots, I want to start a new discussion. Hypothetically, what banning or unbanning will help us...

I want to suggest another bad card. Has anyone tried Pendelhaven Elder? Costs 2 mana and makes basically all of our guys 2/3s.

I think I will hop on this Thoughtseize discussion. When did people start to switch Cabal Therapy to Thoughtseize?

Lists used to run 4 Cabal Therapy and 2 Thoughtseize. Then it went to 3-3. Now I...

I saw borderland explorer and got excited because I thought it was a land tutor on a stick but then I saw basic :(

So DnT is getting a lot of new toys. I'm assuming this will make their meta share increase. With that, isn't elves primed to get better since we prey on those types of decks?

I've decided that I still like NO too much game 1. I think I've finalized my list for a wide-open GP meta. Any changes y'all would make?

Creatures: 29
2 Birchlore Rangers
1 Craterhoof Behemoth...

It seems like there are 2 current philosophies.
1) go linear game 1 and force decks to answer us (NO elves)
2) be flexible game 1 and have general answers preboarded (Chaos elves)

So far, it...

I world agree with your opinion but with tutors and card draw, elves is actually not so linear and more grindy. NO is just a must answer threat.

How would you recommend SBing against lands? I can get miracles and storm covered with SB cards and the grindier decks are naturally s good matchup for us, especially with either Progenitus or WRP....