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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    You could also do this already with that 1 mana Elf that gets +3/0 when blocking a flier (Ezuri's Archers) -- you dont get the card with revolt triggers, but it's also just a 1-mana elf vs a 3 mana...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Isn't Rishkar, Peema Renegage just a much more powerful card if you're looking at new 3 drops for a Chaos-Elves type build that attempts chip away rather than full on Glimpse/NO?

    I get that the...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Dragonlord Atarka seems like a potentially sweet NO target out of the board to clean up Pyromancer/tokens, Delvers, etc.
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    Re: [Deck] Elves!

    While Tasigur is new and cool and all...I don't see how it ever gets into the deck before Wren's Run Packmaster.
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    Re: [Deck] Elves!

    Are you just winning all your games vs Miracles based on a timely-resolved Choke?

    I'm not sure I understand taking out all 4 NO and 2 Glimpse. Especially when Glimpse is much easier blanked by...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Before GP: Treasure Cruise & Dig Through Time I've been looking for some high-impact sideboard cards to add to an Elves archetype that's looking less and less promising for the GP as the new Cruise...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    My issue with it, is that it doesn't really help that much against Miracles decks playing many more basics these days. His list looks pretty soft to Miracles.

    I'm liking choke more, personally.
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    I wouldn't be taking out Nettle Sentinel's against BUG. You want all the X/2 guys so you're not nearly as bad against Golgari Charms/Night's of Souls Betrayal.

    Worldspine Wurm should probably be...
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    Re: [Deck] Elves!

    I'm not sure what you mean by the fliers not allowing you to resolve these cards in the first place - do you mean that these such decks are running cards like FoW, Daze, and Spell Pierce which make...
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    Re: [Deck] Elves!

    ? A very short-sided response.

    In the same way Progenitus is a 10mana creature to end the game....or Craterhoof being 8mana

    Like I said, it's a NO target that doesn't require a board presence...
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    Re: [Deck] Elves!

    Been saying it for months, but **Hornet Queen** is your maindeck answer to fliers. >>>Delver/all of Rug, and great against Grisel/Emrakul - also a strong NO target that doesn't necessitate a board...
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    Re: [Deck] Elves!

    Hornet Queen. Been saying it and playing it for a while. A NO target that doesnt require a board presence, and it's amazing against Delver variants, Emrakul, Grisel, and any fair deck.
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    Re: [Deck] Elves!

    A more tuned, all-in version would have things like Summoner's Pact, extra Birchlores, not stuff like Priest of Titania/Archdruid.

    I used to sideboard 1-2 Summoner's Pacts to bring in against...
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    Re: [Deck] Elves!

    Humility still seems like such a narrowly-played 1-of card (even if Miracles builds are hot, aka maybe 8% of the field), in which I don't think you're going to win games that play out in such fashion...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    The idea is to still have the option to go for Hoof with your NO if you have enough creatures and the scenario is right for him.

    More to your question/point, though -

    I find Hornet Queen...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    It's worth noting that the new "Inspired" mechanic in BotG lines up very well with the abilities of this deck.

    Come on sweet, 1-2cc green inspired Elf.

    Also, to the current deck: I've started...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    I'm sure it's been brought up before deep within the pages, but I've recently started using Hornet Queen after seeing Worldspine Wurm from Cuneo.

    It counters Emrakul (plenty of permanents to sac...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    And playing out random 1/1s with an active Jitte -- here, eat my guys for free.
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    That's part of the reason Ruric is better than Craterhoof against RUG. You need multiple guys out against RUG in order for Craterhoof to be meaningful, and with all their removal, dazes, etc, it's...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    GL in Top 8, man. Just saw the bracket for SCGSea. Live now.

    I've also been on board with 1 Craterhoof/1 Ruric as my maindeck NO targets. The redundancy of 2x Hoof is marginalized by the...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    I agree. I think his greatest utility comes in SB games where you want more ways to reliably cast your Thoughtseize/Therapy, Abrupt Decays, etc.

    I personally would cut a Heritage Druid before...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    I believe he was agreeing with you.

    The question then becomes how good are Thorns/Thalia. I have played with that package for a while, too. They can be great, but they can also really disrupt...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Right now I think the issue with Thorns/Thalia vs Additional discard (going up to 7) in the sideboard has a lot to do with the type of combo seeing relatively more play now.

    Thorn/Thalia is better...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    I played online for a while with a very similar list when Beck came out. The colored mana is rarely an issue and you're still talking about 2cc vs 4cc for NO. It makes for a faster, more consistent...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Scavenging Ooze>>>>This
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