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That's part of your mistake. You should not be bringing in decay against any combo deck. Personally, I like to bring in discard when on the play to take out the relevant draw cards from their hand....

If you guys want a NO target for the burn match-up, I think Ruric Thar is more than enough. He has cross applications against storm variants. You can also run two oozes (1 main, 1 side). Remember...

Yeah, I agree it's useful to see how others would play out certain scenarios. For those interested, here are the assumptions I made when evaluating the hand:

1. You're on the play since there are...

I would tap DRS and forest to play visionary first. This allows you to potentially draw into a heritage druid, wirewood symbiote, gsz, etc. that would alter your lines of play. Assuming that the...

Do you guys think packmaster would be better than imperious perfect? Packmaster can store a guy pre-sweeper but imperious perfect is better post-sweeper.

I really like the idea of Bitterblossom on principle. Being able to establish a board against miracles/stoneblade without expending resources puts your opponent in a tough bind. However, I wonder if...

Harmonic Sliver looks so bad now compared to Reclamation Sage. No white, an increased attack, and an elf! :)

With regards to the new white card, I've already seen some D&T players start to use...

I don't get the logic behind slowing down a deck that already beats every fair deck aside from miracles. Even miracles is beatable with a decent sideboard plan (2-0 at SCGLA). If anything, I think...

I finished 7-2 (23/375; $100) in my first SCG(LA) event yesterday with the following list. It would have been nice to make top8 but not bad for first time. :smile:

4 Elvish Visionary
4 Wirewood...

@Spencer: Congrats on the finish! I know it's tough to play through fatigue so don't sweat the top8. I noticed you included gaddock teeg in your board but didn't bring him in against miracles. Is...

I think most of us agree with this. However, I think having another needle instead would be better than null rod in this match-up. Extra copies stop karakas shenanigans along with jace. I realize...

Personally, I don't run teeg because miracles isn't heavily played in my area. My guess was that teeg (in conjunction with needle) is better than null rod since you have 5 copies instead of 1. The...

If you're expecting a lot of miracles, I think gsz->teeg becomes a pretty important play. Either way, good luck to you guys! :)

Hands without glimpse/NO/visionary+symbiote/multiple gsz's/hoof fall under your 3rd point, which I didn't disagree with. However, my personal opinion is that if you have business in your opener, the...

Keeping in mind the OP was posed for game 1s:
1. I believe the assumption was that neither llanowar nor DRS are in your opening hand.
2. Usually a great idea but without heritage druid + cradle,...

I know what cage does. I mistyped since I had it in my mind from the earlier post. You can play empath if you like but I don't see any reason to go below 4 visionaries. Even if I were to try empath...

If you want another kill card, why not play the 4th NO in your main deck? It doesn't require 11 (3+8) mana and will generally win you the game on the spot instead of having to wait a turn. If your...

Personally, I'm pretty liberal with using gsz as my turn 1 dork as well if I don't have llanowar/DRS. Having that extra mana makes top-decked glimpses/visionaries/quirion rangers so much better. In...

The problem with playing counters is that it is too reactive. Elves is a deck that wants to tap out every turn (especially when racing against other combo decks). Discard allows you to disrupt their...

Since it was asked, here is the generic "formula" of calculating the probability of a card in a deck:

variables: c = number of copies; h = hand size; d = deck size

P(card) = 1 - [(d-c)!(d-h)!]...

@spetznaz: I would have played it out this way:
t1: nettle sentinel
t2: symbiote, quirion ranger
t3: heritage druid, NO, attack for 6+5+5+9=25.

Symbiote protects your elves while quirion ranger...

Though somewhat dated, here are some more links I've found helpful in the past. Enjoy!

http://legitmtg.com/competitive/hoof-there-it-i/
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For the puzzles, I think glimpse chain examples with gsz would be helpful for new elf players as well. This would help highlight when to gsz for a certain creature (heritage, nettle, quirion,...

On the play:
Assuming the drawn card on turn 2 is irrelevant, I wouldn't bounce the bayou. Instead, I would play symbiote off the bayou to protect my elves and then quirion ranger off the cradle to...

Thanks Daniel for posting the puzzles since I think they're pretty fun. I get the same result as Julian (assuming no disruption): 16 and 23 damage respectively. It should be fairly easy for...