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Perfect, thanks! :smile:

As title says, what happens if I have Pyromancer ascension in play and I cast Tormenting Voice with another Tormenting Voice as additional discard cost?
My guess is that I could put a charge onto...

So I finally built an UR delver deck as for now I think it's pretty strong, so moderators can close the thread.
Thanks to everyone again, you have been really helpful to me. :smile:

@ Valtrix: good list, but a bit too controllish for my tastes, not that the deck isn't good per se, of course! But I'll write down the list nevertheless :smile:

@ Jon: very nice list! But aren't...

I'm looking forward to see it! :smile:

I really like your UR list, it seems fast and consistent with all those manipulations.
I should proxy a couple of lists (UWr and straight UR) and playtest them, you have been a huge help to me,...

What are, in your opinion, the worst cards and matchup of that list? Or, to say it in other words, do you suggest any changes to that list? and which advice would you give for an embrional sideboard?...

Hmm, seems really good, I have 2 polluted deltas as my only left blue fetches.
What about an UWR delver build? I've found this list but I don't know if it's a standard one, sure it fits my budget,...

I like it, but it would cost over 600€ :cry:, exists a way to optimize it with my budget (up to 400€ max, starting from scratch as I only own bolts and basic lands for that list) without cutting too...

Thanks for the answers.
I like better legacy for the sole fact that I've never played modern before, and I like dredge as a deck, but when I stopped playing there weren't things like grafdigger's...

Hi all, I'm writing here after 3 years since I stopped playing (and probably stupidly sold every card I had except a little number), and with two big questions, but first the facts.

I own a legacy...

At the cost to seeming an idiot, but why should we play a DR target which wins against deck that are nearly a bye to us?
Decks which get totally annihilated by Iona already.

I do not see the...

Thanks!
Yes the single wasteland saved my ass a couple of time and proved to be very useful, the fact is that not playing it with virtually 5 knights in the deck was a crime from my point of view,...

Hi to everyone, I normally only read this forum but this time I have to write something :tongue:
Yesterday I went 5th in a very big tournament in Italy (214 people) with the list ivanpei inspired...

Well, they have a target indeed.
Careful study,breakthrough,cabal therapy and dread return just to mention something.
Of course you have to cast them in order to "give" catcher a legal target, but...

After some advices I made some changes in my latest list:

-1 plains
-1 stp
-1 e.e.

+1 island
+1 mishra's factory
+1 top

I've tested the Ugw dreadstill bringing it to a few tournaments and doing nothing more than 3-3 or something like this, the fact is that I thought the UGr/UG/Ur versions lacked on spot removal suite,...

Only one question...
Why playing dust bowl instead of a simple wasteland? If there are recursion reasons (even without loam/CoW), we must consider that bowl requires 3 mana in addition to the tap,...

Wondering about ponder inclusion I've reached this list after some days of tests, the only annoying thing is that I had to include the 61st card, yes it's proved that's almost the same of running 60...

Mmmh, I'm wondering if the green splash for krosan grip only is worth of it.
The strange thing I noticed is that cunning wish is missing, so I can't realize how he can get the grip when he needs it,...

Right, to be more detailed, when two continuous effect interact on the same layer the one which predominates on the other is the newest on timestamp order, so:

here the "flying ability" is granted...