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Great idea Jblinder. As soon as I saw people using buried alive with the Phoenix it seemed natural to try to combine it with reanimation strategies.

Not sure but there's a good facebook group.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1598499410162313/

Knight would lead more towards a slightly slower Junk Depths kind of list. Could even have Solemnity as a 1 or 2 of at that point for resiliency. But losing the Turbo speed is a big downside.


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If you don't see sneak you can definitely take the containment priests out of board for some more planeswalkers too.

Library is certainly great, and I can see wanting 2 in the main deck but I still feel like Bob is key to how the deck flows. He helps you find your answers in combo matchups, and even if he often...

You found it light on card advantage but want to cut bobs? Bob is a key engine for this deck. Just play an extra trophy/Vindicate if you want more answers to Gurmag. I also think the Karakas is key...

Toxic Deluge is usually the recommended SB replacement without Tabernacle.

Slowly picking up the cards I'm missing for this deck (NO, Primetime, Dragon, Titania) just so I can play this sometimes on a break from Loam. Why is Dragonlord one of the go to NO targets? Because...

What does your list look like right now?

I picked one up and an Ajani Vengeant for the SB as I've never tried that before either. Will probably grab a Nissa VF as well to try in Garruk Relentless spot.

Bob was playing 1 maindeck as an extra creature and card advantage engine. I've never played with any Monarch cards before but it does seem strong. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/313453309

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I think Mox Diamond makes a lot of sense with a high land count, but I agree that I don't see why you wouldn't squeak in 1-2x Loam in somewhere. He's clearly having some success playing for the...

What do people think of the Queen Marchesa tech that Bob Huang is running?

Which decks does David Long side in the GSZ package against? Control decks with answers to ML I guess? Miracles/DnT/Grixis?

Grim Lavamancer could be worth a slot or 2 as another 1 drop and extra clock.

Yeah that's fair re: Gamble and Looting. Gamble has more built in variance in it's effectiveness, where Looting is more consistent but a bit less powerful. I think I will test 2 Gamble 2 Unburial...

In a Burning Wish list like that with LED, I kind of like 2x Gamble better main deck than the 2x Faithless Lootings. A lot of hands are just missing an LED or a Grisel in the yard to be explosive. ...

Explore over Sylvan Scrying is interesting too.

Nice results! I'm going to watch the VOD today, thanks for the link.
What is your current build and sb?

Bizarro got a write up on goldfish:

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/this-week-in-legacy-new-archetypes

Good job guys!

Thanks for answering all my stupid questions!

I was thinking of the Helm+RiP/Leyline situation but I guess your opponent just dies on their draw step, not to the Helm itself. Or is it because Helm...

Oh yeah I had the win once I did the 2nd magus activation, I was just worried that exiling more cards than your library would be a loss like drawing. Glad to hear it doesn't work like that.

Finally read through the whole thread, lots of great discussions.

Started gold-fishing a bit last night. Magus sure is nuts once you can get him going for ~8-10 cards. I realized you need to be...

Thanks for the explanations guys. Appreciate it. I'm drawn to BW because I started on Burning Reanimator a few years ago. But I agree that I should play "stock" bizarro first.

I feel like the 4th...

Thanks again! Great work on the primer, very informative.

I'm leaning towards trying the Burning Wish variant as I think it gives you some nice lines to just storm off with a Shallow grave'd...