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Discard wrecks Show & Tell decks.

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I'm surprised noone has said Aether Vial.

Are you still going on about Grissy? Griselbrand doesn't have nowhere near enough top 8's to consider a ban. In fact, he hardly seems to make top 8 at all.

Maverick is in decline, and RUG is...

We might be on to something here. New format?

I'd like that. Let's send it to wizards' suggestion box. Would add some excitement to those flippin' games vs RUG.

Nothing will be banned.

If anything should be banned it should be Delver.

Or maybe they'll print a another new GW hatebear with "whenever an opponent cheats a fatty into play pick it up, tear...

RUG Delver now approaching Survival win percentages.

"In fact, the only other time we've seen a deck simultaneously make up at least ten percent of the field and win at least 60% of its matches,...

The choices in the format are: RUG aggro-control, UW aggro-control, GW aggro-control and S&T combo.

Aggro simply doesn't exist anymore (as in Delver is a better Zoo deck than Zoo, and Gobs......

Ahh, too bad. Would've been an awesome combo. Back to brainstorming then.

Why? Is there a rule that says you can't go to negative life?

I was thinking something like this:

4 Angel's Grace
4 Bargainboy

4 Show and Tell
4 LDV

4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder

I guess you're not into combo decks. Thats fine. We'll see if its horrible. I'll at least try it.

If you are referring to how to stuff all that in a 60-card deck; I'm sure it is possible.

Well all you need to do is get the demon into play. S&T isn't needed, you can just hardcast him with Rituals after destroying their hand.


I don't think a deck with discard and force should ever...

Consider this;

Turn 1:
land, ritual, duress, petal, show & tell-> Demon.
Draw 14 cards.
petal, some rituals, tendrils.
Draw even more cards.
repeat.

If needed you can still just beat down...

Its quite clear since you can only cast it for the miracle cost when you draw it. Once its in your hand I guess its too late to miracle cast it?

That Show & Storm deck looks pretty good. Why even...

It was just off the top of my head, but I'm sure there is potential. Black had discard to clear the way. Blue has Force. Blue/black Lim-duls-Vault.. It would probably be as good as any other S&T deck.

8 mana Yawgmoth's Bargain with flying and lifelink?

So I can Reanimate/S&T Griselbrand.
Draw a boatload of cards.
Play Doomsday/Insidious Dreams and stack four Time Miracles on top of my deck....

They could potentially ban GSZ based on the same reasoning they used for MT imo.

I played Hive Mind at a local 70 player tournament this weekend. I play the GP list with a single Misdirection. My sideboard was tuned a bit to fight Mavericks, Stoneblade and Dredge.
4 Leyline of...

Which is exactly what would happen. It also has the nice side effects that it makes your deck much more resilient against Wasteland, Blood Moon and Price of Progress.
UW Control is strong enough as...

Can't believe some of the comments in this thread. You guys realise that Land Tax turns all your Brainstorms into Ancestrals right?

Most of the stuff I read here would turn Legacy into type1...

Yea i thought so, thanks.

Can you sac goblin grenadeers when you attack with it but before declare blockers step (so it would count as not blocked at that moment)?