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For sure - If MErfolk takes off like I think it's going to - Peacekeeper and a plains will be even more necassary.

I'm wondering if the Stifle-Nought combo itself is really what we want to be...

Indeed. The metagame I play in tends to over represent Fish in relation to Junk style decks.

I must confess I have never liked Standstill outside of Merfolk. I"m not alone in this sentiment, and...

Hate to say it, but I told you so. I've been advocating the Ubw list without Standstill list for awhile now, but AJs Ur version is very interesting. Grixis Wizards is next on my list ;)
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My bad on the manabase, just check Rico's post.

Spell Snare is great, maybe even better for your meta, but Coutertop is better in a developed metagame where it is both superier at protecting...

Once you cut Standstill the factories go, your manabase becomes more solid, and you can run StP more easily. I made this realization when survival was on it's way out and Merfolk was very popular. I...

Stiffle Nought (minus Standstill) would be an excellent choice for this metagame if it were not for all the GSZ decks that can tutor pridemage and kill nought.

Playing Lavamancer/Basilisk is not...

I cut Stanstill a back when Survial was dominating and never looked back. Some players I respect like the card but I do not, especially when you face signifcant amount of Fish & Goblins.

I would...

Thought I would pose this question to the thread:

What environment is Dreadstill well positioned in and what environments should it not be run?

I found it as a great alternative to playing...

The worse thing about BoB is you can't really run Firespout. If you really have that much Goblins you may want to just run Plague.

I made top 8 with this past weekend running Bobs no Standstill/Factories. 4-0-1 in the swiss lost to Tezzerator in the first round afterbeating him in the first ournd and earlier in the week at...

Well said. Against Folk - what do you think of boarding out the Bobs and leaving CB in to protect Peacekeeper? Without a basic swamp you are opening your self to getting waste-dazed out of the game....

I assume your reffering to Needle on Vial. I think this is generally true but the Peacekeeper plan disrupts this is logic. Once you resolve Peakkeeper Counterbalalnce ensures that it is protected...

I'm running almost the same list as you minus the Standstill/Factory package.

I don't run Standstill because Folk and Goblins are both very popular in my metagame along with a personal distaste...

Both Bob and Standstill? Interesting. I would think the benefits of running the full set of WAselands and having more colored mana stability would outweigh the benifits of Factory.

Could you PM me...

Are you running Thoughtseize anywherebetween the main or SB?

4 Snare is so good. With all of the Heirarchs and Birds floating around I hardly ever want to see Daze anymore.

You might want to rethink your position on the black splash. In addition to...

Certainly tradeoffs but I don't know about strictly better. I mean - Pridemage pracitcally killed StifleNought and it's also heavily played right now. Needle demands you run EE for sure.

I think...

Yes. Requires an additional Hexmage to respond to the waste trigger or stifle if you have it, or your own wastelands.

Has anyone compared the pros and cons of stiflenought to Dark Depths Ctop?