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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

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    Spoiler from Kaldheim. Anyone see this being playable?
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    By the way, if someone with recent and substantial experience playing this deck in Legacy wants to drop some notes in here regarding any of the prominent matchups, that would be great. If you don't...
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    Hi all. Haven't played in a couple years, but I've been kind of keeping an eye on the Legacy scene. Thought I'd pop in to update the OP/Primer. Honestly, it could use a lot more fleshing out, but...
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    Congrats on that result, Xander. That list looks fantastic.

    Question: Necrotic Sliver. I read your report, and I think you mentioned using it... once? Were there other times? Is it actually...
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    I prefer Brainstorm to Chalice myself, just because there are matchups where Chalice is basically dead. Also, tapping out on turn 2 for Chalice, only to have it countered, is such a huge tempo loss....
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    That looks pretty solid for a budget list, worldsaverinc. Of course, a few of those cards aren't really "budget," but if you got em, play em. I do have a few comments. First, you might find those...
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    That's correct regarding Phantasmal Image and the timing of Show and Tell. You would have to play it or vial it in afterward. I'm not sure if the matchup warrants devoting slots to Gilded Drake,...
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    Yeah, that's fair. Non-land permanents it is. I like it. Who do I talk to at Wizards? lol

    Also, join our Facebook page if you haven't already, Kirby.
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    I'm trying to imagine my opponent's face as his Emrakul gets choked out by a Constricting Sliver, lol.

    An old standby hate card for Show and Tell is Gilded Drake. Works fairly well for us,...
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    Looks solid, Ork, though I have a couple comments. Black is your scarcest color, so 2 Underground Sea seems odd. Also, you should always start with 4 Predatory Sliver, then add in however many...
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    The idea being to drop Necrotic into play off Show and Tell, then spend 3 mana to vindicate your opponent's Griselbrand/Emrakul/Omniscience? Nice thought, but I'm not sure you can count on having...
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    You're a smart guy, Ralf. I think you can figure out how and when Karakas might be useful. Yeah, it's "narrow."

    Moving on.

    I took a Brainstorm Slivers list to my local Saturday tournament...
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    I'm not sure, MC. I suppose it would be great if it followed an Aether Vial. You'll have to let us know how it works out for you.

    Btw, a sideboard suggestion I have for everyone is Karakas.
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    Hm. Also hits your Mutavaults, as well as the "return to hand" ability from Hibernation Sliver. Is shutting off opponent fetchlands worth it? I can see it randomly winning games, but seems a bit...
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    Nice. Thanks, Ralf. I'm going to study this in depth later. Just off the cuff, though, what about Phyrexian Revoker as an alternative to Meddling Mage? A somewhat narrow card, I know, but it...
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    Yeah, in the same way that Essence Sliver's effect stacks, so does Leeching Sliver's.

    Also, I totally agree with you, Kirby. These new humanoid-looking slivers are antithetical to me. Gimme back...
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    So, I thought I'd take a break from the discussion on perfecting the Chalice Slivers list and share a couple other lists I've been tinkering with.

    First, there's this:

    4 Crystalline Sliver
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    Some great discussion here, guys.

    @Khamul: Thank you for the tournament report and comments. The only thing I would say about your bad day is it happens. Look for ways to improve the deck and...
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    Even if you convert all 9 of the flexible land slots (after 4 mutavault, 4 cavern, 4 hive) to undiscovered paradises, reflecting pools, horizon canopies, mana confluences and whatnot, that's still...
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    That all makes sense. In a vacuum, I think I would prefer RiP overall. Unfortunately, my current Chalice Slivers list only has 6 lands that fetch or tap for white mana that can be used for...
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    Heh. I only just noticed Ralf's ninja post.

    I'm also a proponent of the hate-bear strategy. Here's what I came up with when I was tinkering with my sideboard last night.

    2 Containment Priest...
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    SDT: Aside from being a non-bo with Chalice, which is probably reason enough not to play it, it's not something we can really get on-line until several turns into the game. We want to spend the...
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    I ran 3 at that tournament, yes. I was copycatting. It was the first time I had even tried Chalices in the deck, honestly. But now I'm questioning the number. My list in the primer contains 4...
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    Re: [Deck/Primer] Countersliver (MeatHooks)

    Actually, I'd be willing to consider Sylvan Library, but you should realize our manabase isn't particularly good for casting colored non-creature spells. Especially non-blue spells. Impulse would...
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