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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    Hierarch is seriously a playable card in bug midrange?

    No jtms mb? 8 mana dorks and no real pay off?
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    so the list I plan on trying next:

    4 drs
    4 strix
    4 goyf

    3 lotv
    3 jtms

    4 force
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    Yes. In rip matchups you cut some goyfs but my list has planeswalkers and such to go through. 9 cards my effected means little effect. Good miracle pilots take out counterbalance against bug deck.
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    I am glad it has worked out for you. Definitely much stronger since the rules change and just another hard to deal with threat. Wolves transforming into goyfs in pretty great. Like some kind of new...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    Boarding out goyfs is wrong. surgicals isn't really where you wanna be against miracles. I could see taking out the forest, 4 force, 2 seize, 3 strix for 2 surgery 1 negate, 1 garruk, 1 clique,...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    Haha good read. I disagree with the miracles player, but not because hes on miracles. Invasive is fine against him and deluge can clean up mentors/angels but sadly at sorcery speed.
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    My buddy is currently 5-2 w the deck.
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    I aimed somewhere between Bug Delver and Shardless: I think I hit the nail on the head by trimming delver fragility and cutting the durdliness of the shardless engine. Leaning on planeswalkers and...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    Mine or his?
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    -you are correct, I was just saying it to prove your point

    -I just hate that card. I already play force, why cant that be enough? haha

    -1 loam mb for life, bud. that card has been the...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    - golgari charm and marsh casualties come to mind

    -there is just so many better cards than pierce, albeit im not a fan of counterspells in the first place. just a green mage with some forces.
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    most of the things they bring in for strix will hit tnn for me so that's not an avenue. I hate pierce as a card. I would rather pay the extra :1: and counter the damn spell. Thrun just seems...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    4 ponder
    4 brainstorm
    4 drs
    2 seize

    that is my 1 cmc suite.

    I also play 3 decay and 1 pulse so I can deal with them but the 3 lotv can get rid of fluff from my hand. I also play 4 baleful...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    A friend of mine is going to gp Columbus and was testing reanimator to find out its awful atm so I offered my bug control deck and he loves it. Hopefully he does well! I can post the list I gave him.
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    I am reluctant to jam snap because he is another gy based component albeit I trust its strong enough and when I foresee gy hate coming, I can shave accordingly.

    How many basics do you suggest? 21...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    I am playing a comparable amount of creatures as well.

    I hadn't lost to nic fit, I just imagine that is a matchup we are weak to. I also run no basics at this moment in time.
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    You are correct. he doesn't really help bad matchups, now that I think of it, he doesn't do much for anything but decks we are favored already. I will test drive him when I get a chance but I feel...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    I think you are misunderstanding edrics place. He is good by himself or with others, of course more people, more fun. I know that if they remove him, that's one less at goyf but if they don't get...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    I would be trying it as a value 1 of. if I hit with 2 creatures and then they draw removal to kill him, ive netted a 3 for 1 which is fine for 1GU. In theory it seems fine but I will have to test...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    Yes, as always, spot on.

    I made quite a few changes to my mb

    4 drs
    4 goyf
    4 strix

    3 jtms
    3 lotv
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    played in a 26 man IQ Sunday

    4 drs
    4 strix
    2 TNN
    1 snap

    3 lotv
    3 jtms
    1 garruk Rel
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    I just feel that pierce is fine early but as the game progresses you either have to hope they are troubled on mana or hope you can catch them with it if they go for a convoluted line. I would rather...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    Wow that's quite a list but it's more along the lines of a delver less tempo deck. Stubby D is spicy but not reliable. I believe this deck gets a lot of power from surprise and shock value.
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    Surprise factor is a real thing, I will have to look into getting a pair of betas for my binder. Thanks for the suggestion!



    I am not a fan of pierce out of the board. I suggest invasive:...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    Yes, you are correct in your evaluation of BEB vs Chill. Going forward, I will likely go with the former seeing as your argument was spot on.

    I believe you are correct. I unfortunately thought...
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