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  1. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    @yoshipwnz

    Only one thing really bothers me about your list. Why is there only 1 dream stalker? By running 2 you can avoid 1 piece of spot removal breaking up the combo. Do you simply believe in...
  2. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    probe is an interesting card that fits decently into this deck. When you have turn 1 probe + therapy, and neither gets forced, dazed, missteped, brainstormed around, or avoided another way, then...
  3. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    You don't understand what he is saying. You play man-o-war, its CIP ability (targetting their creature) goes on the stack. You then activate harpy, play harpy, bounce man-o-war (its CIP ability...
  4. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    I agree with nonex, but i would just like to add

    1. You want to play harpy, then in resp to its CIP ability play raven or whatever. That way, they need 2 StP instead of just 1 to break it up. ...
  5. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    It is really very easy. You just play a transitional board into eva-green, since apparently that wins everything these days.
  6. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    This has got to be the first intelligent thing i have heard in a long time. Full boat of intuitions with loam/stronghold/witness sexyness sounds damn good. Really helps the control MU.

    @...
  7. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    trinisphere does affect aluren. Aluren says "Any player may play creature cards with converted mana cost 3 or less without paying their mana cost", and trinisphere states "each spell that would...
  8. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    Did you honestly just compare aluren to hulk-flash? This is why i hate people...

    On a more productive note, i would advocate running at least 1 sedraxis in the main, in place of a man-o-war. ...
  9. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    Yes, dark confidant goes great in a control type deck that revolves around aluren (4cc), and is supported by force of will (5cc). Better yet, lets remove 1/3 of the anti-creature cards in the...
  10. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    @ TheLion's link: a fairly standard non-recruiter build, with 2 small changes, and an interesting board. His maindeck runs auriok champion over spike feeder, with a feeder in the board. I can...
  11. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    Wheel of sun and moon is actually not a bad idea. I would run wheel over leyline any day. However, i still like extirpate better because it comes unexpectedly, completely removes one piece of their...
  12. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    I use extirpates in my board over leyline. There are a couple reasons for this. Mainly, leyline is essentially useless unless it is in your opening hand. Since this deck doesn't mulligan too well,...
  13. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    My mistake, it is indeed 60 cards, however only 18 of them are lands. Between port, sinkhole, bloodmoon, wasteland, stifle, vindicate, mulligans, and mana-screw, i am wondering if you ever have 4...
  14. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    I have to simply disagree about running essence warden. The decks dropping chalice at 1 are fast aggro decks, capable of direct damage (aggro loam, red 5/3, dragon stompy, faerie stompy). Simply...
  15. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    I would really advise against playing essence warden. Even if you don't play wall of roots, i would still go with spike feeder. The fact is, chalice of the void is a very common card, and setting...
  16. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    The reason we play goyf, is because without playing it we have no answer to an opponents goyf. There is no cheaper and more versatile spell in these colors that can conistantly answer tarmogoyf...
  17. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    When someone actually looses a game after going off for infinite life, twenty 3000/3000 creatures, and 20 force of wills, then we can talk about an instant win condition. Until then, just run...
  18. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    All i ever play is non-recruiter, because i think its better, and i cant afford recruiters if i wanted them. I'm sick of recruiter or not debate, so im just gonna talk about non-recruiter.

    As...
  19. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    If you dont see any problems with chalice, i would suggest using essence warden. Assuming you have aluren + recruiter + bounce (man-o-war, harpy, CoV, echoing truth, intution, vault) in hand, you...
  20. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    Harmonic Sliver? Honestly?

    In case you forgot, you already run the colors for pernicious deed. By running only 1 sliver, and only 1 land that can cast it, the chances of you playing it without...
  21. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    I have actually been considering maindecking 2 deeds for a while, and never got around to trying it out. Its a decent idea, if your meta calls for it. The only problem i see is that relocating...
  22. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    Lets not forget essence warden's biggest ability, that of making their turn 1 chalice at 1 not only a factor, but a huge problem. Also, despite everyone saying he can save you life by dropping him...
  23. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    Tog is simply not a substitute for goyf because it costs 1 more. We already run 0 turn 1-drop creatures, and going down to 4 two-drop creatures would be a serious mistake. Also, your turn 3 is...
  24. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    As already stated, chant = 4 colors = bad.

    In regards to fetches, i run a 4/3 split in favor of forest fetches. Since the deck needs GG to win and can function with only one island, this seems...
  25. Thread: [Deck] Aluren

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    Re: [Deck] Aluren

    Without aluren you basically become a terrible faerie stompy deck. Other than your flyers, you can use some harpy trickery to play around with everything. Man-o-wars can also bounce things around...
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