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@ Brael: out of curiosity, could you also build software to test certain configurations vs Miracles? Or better, test hypothetical decks which whoop Miracles, and at the same time have a decent game...

Hi AIRchrist, and welcome back. I'm no expert with Burn, but I've been playing the deck off and on for some time now. I do however have some ideas regarding your questions:



IMO it is not...

You made me curious... What does your meta look like? Eidolon is by far one of the best cards printed for a deck like Burn, so please explain :smile:

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Indeed, but it can be a dead turn. Again, just speaking my mind, and I will test in the near future.

@ Brael: thanks for the reply, still I'm not convinced. It is the opposite of going for the quick kill, and can be 2-3 dead cards drawn. It is like a self-fulfilling prophecy: put in SDT, because we...

I read a lot about SDT in this thread, but I must be missing some kind of secret tech because I can't see why you would run 2-3 cards that don't do damage. Could some one enlighten me?

Either he was really lucky or really really skilled. I like the firecraft main. I just can't help but think he sometimes missed a landdrop, and those cards got stick in his hand. Still, fact is he...

16 lands? That's bold.

It depends on your meta. I have played a green splash with K-Grip in the side for a while, but have now opted for a mono-red version with Shusher in the side. Menners here have opted for Shusher...

@ Krimson Viper: I also missed your question regarding Green and land-count: always twenty, with a minimum of eight fetch and one (if possible two) Taiga.

Three would be enough: they don't have CounterTop on turn one, so first thing is to play as much Burn-spells as possible. After they establish CounterTop you throw in Shusher. At least, that's how I...

@ Krimson Viper: thanks for the information. I had the same ideas. If ever something better is printed I will replace Blaze in an instant :smile:

Hello and welcome!

Interesting build, but this has been tried before (to some extend). A couple of questions:

1. Can you tell something about various MU's? For instance, various DTB.

2. How...

Well, I must say: the lists seems to be performing quiet well. I'm going to try it when I got the time.

Two Burn decks made it top20 at SCG Syracuse, did anyone noticed? Nicholas Herbs placed 14th with Monastery Swiftspear and Jacob Shannon placed 7th with a Classic List.

I had a similair discussion with friends, and we came up with the following:

Combo:
Leyline (only Dredge)
Surgical Extraction
Crypt
Grafdigger's Cage (slow combo)

Control:
Grafdigger's Cage

Well, because you DON'T want to mull for a LotV. You don't have a way to refill your hand, so mulling for them is a bad thing. You don't want multiples, because most of the time you are unable to...

Ooh I know, but I've never been lucky enough to get to three mana as they just went in with Emrakul first, or counter Vortex if I had three lands. Luck isn't on my side when facing SnT. In fact, I...

Keep/ board everything in that can kill creatures.



I dropped Swiftspear from my own list, but if I would keep her in if she was MD. Miracles runs a lot of fetch: PoP is actually pretty good...

I usually pack two, as there are always a couple of SnT, Miracles, and Painter in my meta. Recently there has been an increase of Reanimator as well.



I'm still debating if I made the right...

@ edahl: P-Needle does not stop LED, Revoker does.

I second that: Burn is cheap, but that's about it. Hard to master, it needs skill to wield correctly. This isn't Modern; there are cards in Legacy that can ruin your game, even without you ever play...

@ Burnwillows, Swiftspear is a great card, and I've played her too, but the results weren't always satisfying. Right now I've decided to drop her for good old GG: the damage-output is more...

Well, no, because white offers nothing Burn already has: Eidolon, E-Bridge, Smash to Smithereens. Of course you could use Disenchant, but K-Grip does it strictly better. And yeah, you will not splash...

Wow, that is one hell of a long sentence.

In my humble opinion the only splash is Green for enchantment-hate: K-Grip or Destructive Revelry.