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No. God no. No more lackeys. Not now. Not ever.

I didn't cut prop from sb. In fact I had 3. Still lost 2-1 every round I played them. Propaganda only helps, it isn't an instant win, and you still have to draw it.

I personally went 5-3, seeing 3 goblins across the table from me on day 1. upon retrospect, I would drop stifle completely, move jittes back to the sb, and maindeck back to basics. It won me 3 of...

The primer is updated regularly. The information it does have is fairly recent. If anything it just doesn't have everything you're looking for.

Good catch. I've been up way too long.

It's still one of the few things we can use to stop lackey turns 1/2. Like you said, I'd still keep them in.

@Finn I don't mind my list being used in...

edit: Late night posting is a bad idea.

That's what I was implying. :P

Ensnare isn't terrible. (The artwork is ironic) I still wouldn't run it though, I think its scope is too narrow, and at best it buys you a single turn at the cost of two islands. Meh.

I really...

By that point in the game, tempo has already been gained or lost at a crucial level. I'm not saying it would never help, but it typically won't be useful. In my opinion, stick to propaganda and try...

I suppose that's true, it would still be considered a "non-basic island".

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I've been considering doing some shifting and playing the 4th stifle for more mana denial tempo. Haven't decided one way or the other yet.

Cool, if it worked for you keep trying it.

Personally with so little card draw that this deck has, I won't be running a singleton of anything (other than cards that effectively do the same thing...

I wasn't shocked and in no way was I trying to challenge your decision... I was just curious to see someone elses take on the deck. It's still a newer deck in the format and standards still haven't...

Forbidden, you mention MD'ing Jitte and running 21-26 creatures.

Mind posting your list?

I haven't, but then again, I haven't been piloting the deck very long. I don't think that their adverse interaction should keep you from boarding in both and playing around it if necessary. They...

I would board in both fairly often, yes. I would board both in burn, goyf sligh, and goblins just off the top of my head. Probably many more.



Thinned the mana base? Really? Been working...

I think tidal warrior and selkie are the only two that come even close to being candidates (other than MD'ing Kira) but as has been discussed, just aren't worth the spots.

I agree that I'd like to up the creature count a bit but nothing in the current game is worth the slots of the cards I would have to take out for it. I have a feeling that Kira will be in more games...

I'll just post my list

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// Lands
3 [MOR] Mutavault
4 [TE] Wasteland
12 [5E] Island (3)

// Creatures

Because at their base level they do the same thing for the same amount of mana but both also do something extra. One is uncounterable and the other you can bounce something additional for a...

I would run a singleton of both Wipe Away and Rushing River ala Canadian Thresh

I can respect that concession Finn.

If it were /ME/, I would take out a wasteland or a daze. If you disagree, that's fine, but those would be my choices.

But Finn, what you aren't understanding is not every single card in your deck is as strong as every other card in your deck. One of those slots is the weakest slot, and cutting it will make the...

Again, I'm no merfolk expert, but that looks like a pretty solid list to me.