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    Re: [Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    I don't really like Dark Confidant at all. Other business spells are usually much better.

    In more entertaining news (well, at least I hope so), I recorded a league with this oldschool Grinding...
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    Re: [DTB] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    Or you play in a way that does not need to go all-in on one card. Not that I'm saying that Grid's effect is as good as Swarm's, it clearly isn't, but it's still a strong effect. And keeping up 3-4 is...
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    Re: [DTB] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    For what it's worth, you can still play Defense Grid then. I didn't get to try it myself yet, but I've been told it's decent.
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    Re: [DTB] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    I recently got back into producing content again, my first league run with Storm is live now: Complete Storm League Playlist — #thedailywars #8-12

    I definitely plan on recording another League...
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    Re: [Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    Basically, Daze is almost always the better card here. And Miracles is not a reason to maindeck Decay, that matchup is very favourable before sideboarding anyway.
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    Re: [Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    It's the same as if they Surgical Infernal with the other line, only you have Past in Flames in your deck still. Drawing Ad Nauseam off Probe here is significantly better though. It's all very close,...
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    Re: [Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    Two black mana.
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    Re: [Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    Just randomly noticed that I think casting Infernal in the first scenario is wrong. Think I prefer Past in Flames, crack LED for BBB.
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    Re: [Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    Can you even beat Surgical if you go with Ad Nauseam? You theoretically can, it just requires a combination of a bunch of cards that I'm too lazy to go through right now (sorta interesting though).
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    Re: [Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    Then you can cast Ponders for discard/Tendrils instead of Empty, which is still somewhat alright.

    In all seriousness, all our options are really bad here, so "it's not great" isn't exactly a...
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    Re: [Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    Probe into Petal also wins because you can CRit -> Infernal -> LED -> Empty. Probe Probe into black spell + Petal also works. Basically puts you in the same position as Past in Flames floating U.
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    Re: [Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    So Ad Nauseam is not an option. Even without the opponent having Surgical (and you not having Past in Flames in graveyard obv) this would be highly unlikely to lead to victory.

    The only real...
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    Re: [Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    Scratch everything I said, thought we had one more mana hahaha
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    Re: [Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    Get LED, float B, cast Past in Flames. Opponent casts Surgical on anything but Infernal, they're dead. If they take Infernal, I'm content with 2 Probe, 2 Ponder, BBBBBB and U. If they don't Surgical,...
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    Re: [Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    Full explanation, think this covers all combinations of cards.


    1) Opponent has Infernal + discard.

    You lose if you cast Snare and win if you don't. Note that it's not unlikely they play this...
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    Re: [Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    Ah, just realised I forgot to put "If you Snare" there. Gonna go and edit that.



    That's where we disagree. I don't think you need to kill them next turn, I'm fine untapping and playing Top.
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    Re: [Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    Honestly this is irrelevant. They are super dead if you get to untap anyway.
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    Re: [Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    Past in Flames next turn is not a consideration, you have Mentor, Snapcaster and a Monk with Top, they're dead if you Snare and they don't kill you.



    No, if you Snare Storm is already six.
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    Re: [Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    You also win here if you don't Snare.



    Agree this is highly unlikely.



    They are only one mana short of double Past in Flames if you Snare. Not too unlikely they have something.
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    Re: [Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    If the opponent has Past in Flames plus land, discard, ritual, Infernal or Tendrils, you can't win. If you Snare Cabal Ritual and they have Tendrils plus cantrip into any spell, you're also dead....
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    Re: [Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    Ad Nauseams with double Petition are much more consistently in the 10-12 life range. When you don't have Petition in the deck, you get wins in the 7 life range more often, but you also go up to 17-18...
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    Re: [Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    Anyone willing to update the primer to include information such as this? Would be great to have a FAQ section.
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    Re: [Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    Dark Petition makes your Ad Nauseams way more consistent and they average out lower.
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    Re: [Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    There really is no escape. I thought this was a safe zone!
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    Re: [Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils) Storm Combo

    Against many decks you only want them after sideboarding though. (Also, I did that a while back and it wasn't great. I don't think it's possible to make reasonable cuts to include Decay without...
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