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    Re: [DTB] Grixis Tempo

    I was wondering the same thing about the pile MU.

    I side out 4 force and 2 probes for 2 fluster, 1 lavamancer, 1 dismember, and 2 pyroblast.

    But I hear what you're saying about probe. Its...
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    Re: [DTB] Grixis Tempo

    Top 4'Ed Eternal weekend, Bob's list is the truth
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    Re: [DTB] Grixis Tempo

    I'm actually testing it myself. With. the meta being fair right now, its an alternative to playing stifle.

    It makes sense to me, since DRS just makes stifle a little worse. Spell pierce has a...
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    Re: [DTB] Grixis Tempo

    Hey kabal, interesting question. Hard to say, depends on what you're gunning for in game 1.

    Im back and forth, but I read an article on how to beat storm, by Jonathan Alexander. It mentioned that...
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    Re: [DTB] Grixis Tempo

    Took stifle delver to a 10-5 finish at GP Vegas.
    My list 3 peezy and 1 tnn, 3 stifle and my flex slots were 1 pierce and 1 forked bolt. My side was:
    2 pyroblast
    3 cabal therapy
    1 pithing needle...
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    Re: [DTB] Grixis Tempo

    That's a good point. Young peezy is probably the reason to play grixis delver, next to angler I suppose.

    I think its hard to really find "sacred cows" for this deck, or any other, save can...
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    Re: [DTB] Grixis Tempo

    It sure does seem that the probe therapy pyro is the shell that has the most synergy, and stifle belongs in a different build, something more similar to Sean Brown's list (MTG goldfish) a list which...
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    Re: [DTB] Grixis Tempo

    I wonder then, would you say it's safe to say the therapy version is the best choice for GP Vegas?
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    Re: [DTB] Grixis Tempo

    Nice job! That list looks nice, and it seems you're taking more advantage of stifle via snap and a second pierce.

    Also, I'm still having a lot of trouble against storm. I play the stifle version,...
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    Re: [DTB] Grixis Tempo

    I dunno, I think matchups like these are the reason to play stifle. Mana dorks make it worse, though, you're right. Referencing LewisCBR's sb guide, he trims an angler, fow, daze, probe and the...
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    Re: [DTB] Grixis Tempo

    It's a deck with a crap ton of removal, but their mana base is shaky enough to leverage stifle/wasteland against them. Them fetching up basics can work in your favor, with cards like jace,...
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    Re: [DTB] Grixis Tempo

    So, within the last few weeks, I bought into grixis delver on modo, and I'll say, for being a total legacy noob, it feels pretty good to be able to practice everyday. I have learned a lot and do...
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    Re: [DTB] Grixis Tempo

    Thanks guys. These were the answers I was looking for. Just have to keep playing I suppose.
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    Re: [DTB] Grixis Tempo

    MorphBerlin, I suppose that daze or force would do, but that's a good point, my opponent doesn't want to walk into daze, so they could be like. "I probably should just ponder, or cast my own DRS....
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    Re: [DTB] Grixis Tempo

    Okay, I'm back with some more theory crafting.
    I really get grinded out by midrange. Pretty bad. And so, here's a scenario. I always jam the shaman on turn 1 if I can, right? I'm starting to wonder...
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    Re: [Deck] Grixis Tempo

    Yeah, I get you. To a degree, you can't just ship decent hands back, opting for perfect ones. Hands on the play, like drs, waste, fetch, bolt daze and like, some other action are snap keeps for sure....
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    Re: [Deck] Grixis Tempo

    Got theory crafting/strategy question, real quick.

    Delver mirrors (drs ones. Not Canadian lol)

    Assuming I'm on the draw, Im trying to think, what the best 7 im looking for?

    Wasteland is...
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    Re: [Deck] Grixis Tempo

    Yeah, I faced almost all bug decks or death blade variants yesterday, with the therapy build. I'm kind of seeing the light on LewisCBR's list. Our combo matchup is already good, but fair decks, you...
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    Re: [Deck] Grixis Tempo

    Submerge may be another option to fight elves. Not sure how good it would be be. Being new to legacy, what's the best cards to side out versus elves? Gurmag? I can imagine it gets chumped by...
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    Re: [Deck] Grixis Tempo

    Hamsert, forked bolt over push/dismember doesn't sound bad. Our deck doesn't always need to have an answer to angler/tarmogoyf. If you consider young pyro, TNN, and angler, (especially pyromancer) we...
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    Re: [Deck] Grixis Tempo

    That might just be better. You can sweep if you are stuck on one land. Against a DnT deck it might be weak to vial, but against elves, gg
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    Re: [Deck] Grixis Tempo

    I like the idea of that Atreyu, as Lands is a god awful MU, and price of progress is a great idea, good way to close the game

    Also, I'm guessing the 3x pyroblast is because its also an answer to...
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    Re: [Deck] Grixis Tempo

    Wcm8, i Like the idea of k command as a MD utility answer. Good against petal and LED in some cases too! What's your list look like?
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    Re: [Deck] Grixis Tempo

    Well, our worst matchup was just falcon punched into oblivion. Now what? Back to cabal therapy? (Assuming a resurgence of combo and elves?)

    Edit: Not to mention, a lot of Delver mirrors.
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    Re: [Deck] Grixis Tempo

    Hey guys, I'm a relatively inexperienced Grixis Delver player. I'm currently on the 2 therapy MB list. Even though lots of people are switching to stifle, I'm still worried about running into Dnt and...
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