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    Re: [DTB] UWx Miracle Control

    This was really interesting. Thanks for sharing!
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    Re: [DTB] UWx Miracle Control

    Congrats! I was at the same tournament and finished 3-2-2, out of even top 32 contention. Both draws were against Port/Vial decks, and had games where my opponent had 3+ Ports keeping me off actually...
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    Re: [Primer] UWx Miracle Control

    I'm going to try to trade for a couple Soothsayings (I know, they're only like $2.50 each, but still...) and test this as well. I've been sticking with the 'traditional' Mentor + UA build but am...
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    Re: [Primer] UWx Miracle Control

    Very interesting stuff! I really like the power of Soothsaying in the later game, where it helps draw into action even better than Top did. I think you Soothsaying'd for 6+ a few times, which has to...
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    Re: [DTB] UWx Miracle Control

    Ah, quite right. Not used to playing against a Prelate not set to 1. :\

    I like the idea of From the Ashes as well. It also works with Surgical Extraction. I did try a game 3 against my RUG lands...
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    Re: [DTB] UWx Miracle Control

    I have a few Lands players (either RG, RUG, or Turbo Depths) in my local meta, and after playing against them multiple times over the past few weeks, am really questioning whether non-basic hate...
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    Re: [DTB] UWx Miracle Control

    Also, this is a very strange card from the new Commander decks. Apparently the rules will also change so that tokens phasing out does not cause them to disappear like 'blinking' them does, so this...
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    Re: [DTB] UWx Miracle Control

    For those who haven't seen it yet, an interesting article on 'new Miracles' by Rich Cali: https://www.flipsidegaming.com/blogs/magic-blog/the-new-look-miracles-in-the-new-metagame
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    Re: [DTB] UWx Miracle Control

    Just to put decklists here for easy reference:

    Johannes Gutbrod – Mentor Miracles

    3 Tundra
    1 Volcanic Island
    4 Scalding Tarn
    4 Flooded Strand
    2 Arid Mesa
    4 Island
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    Re: [DTB] UWx Miracle Control

    Sorry, I didn't phrase the first question very well. For Blood Moon I was mostly thinking of the Moon Stompy decks where I want to fetch basic Plains & Island but then can't cast Wear on a Chalice....
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    Re: [DTB] UWx Miracle Control

    Thanks for the report & stream link! Quite jealous of your basics. :)

    A couple questions on your list:

    1. Why Wear // Tear over Disenchant? It seems like Disenchant is just a bit easier to...
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    Re: [DTB] UWx Miracle Control

    On the subject of Monastery Mentor: This is my theory-crafting, and I'm not the best player, so take it for what it's worth.

    From a deckbuilding perspective, compared to some of the recent Entreat...
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    Re: UWx Miracle Control

    Very nice!

    I'd love to see some further discussion of general gameplay strategy. One topic is Portent -- especially when it is correct to Portent the opponent vs. yourself (i.e., how aggressive...
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    Re: Miracle Control

    For whatever it's worth, Andrea Mengucci (Channel Fireball) posted a video of Mentor-Daze Miracles: https://www.channelfireball.com/videos/channel-mengucci-legacy-mentor-miracles/

    Notable features...
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    Re: Miracle Control

    Indeed! As someone who only got to play 'old' Miracles for a couple months before the Top ban, it's been very exciting to watch the re-development of this deck.

    Thanks also to all for the...
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    Re: Miracle Control

    Continuing with asking stupid questions: do we really not want Blood Moon against Grixis / RUG Delver? (Obviously not against UR Delver since it runs so many basics / bolts.) I get that it comes down...
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    Re: Miracle Control

    Thank you for this! Very helpful -- though I know I'll need to get some more matches in before I can really internalize this.
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    Re: Miracle Control

    Please don't let one or two strangely negative responses dissuade you! I'm sure the vast majority of people in this thread, including people who never even post, value your insight and comments.

    *...
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    Re: Miracle Control

    Well said. I agree (though perhaps time will prove my intuition/theorycrafting wrong!), and am certainly more interested in keeping Portents than adding Preordains. As you rightly noted, you can...
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    Re: Miracle Control

    Very exciting! Interested to hear some specifics on the builds when the time is right (Mentor vs. ETA; UW vs. UWr; etc.).

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    Not as interesting as the GP, but I just got a chance to play...
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    Re: Miracle Control

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    The last time I got to play CounterTop Miracles, I blind predicted my Mono-Black Pox/Discard/something opponent twice, naming Swamp. I milled a Liliana of the Veil both times. :cool:
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    Re: Miracle Control

    Thanks for this -- very informative. I barely got a bit of experience under my belt with old Miracles before the ban, so I'm very much playing catch up compared to everyone here.




    Mana Maze...
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    Re: Miracle Control

    Congrats to both! A couple questions, if I may:

    How often did you Portent yourself to set up a Terminus/Entreat vs. Portent the opponent to control draw steps and/or set up Predict? (Obviously...
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    Re: Miracle Control

    I like this main board a lot! I think 2 Cliques seems like a good concession to combo matchups while never really being a dead card (it can even activate Terminus for you in a pinch), and a couple...
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    Re: [DTB] Miracle Control

    I've also been testing out Portent Miracles (just against myself with two windows of TappedOut, since I don't have MTGO, so not the best testing obviously, but it is what it is...). I've gone a...
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