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Haven't tested but I've almost posted several times. It seems terrible IMO

* it filled his beater slots (including BSK) which seems incorrect. If anything it seems like you'd replace your...

It's worth mentioning:
* Kolaghan's is always a 2-for-1 outside of very rare scenarios. It's true that KCom can be mediocre tempo if all it does is pick off a mom and make you discard a card, but...

You've never played Stifle have you..?

Are you saying that when someone stifles your SFM you're the type who goes "LOL 2-for-1!" because you got a 1/2?
You showed them. You showed them all.

The "Free wins' though come at the cost of versatile cards. Cutting some number of Revoker for Magus will net you points against some decks, and lose points to others. Cutting some number of SAvenger...

I'm not sure if he means Esper Blade or Deathblade; but if you see Deathrite's, obviously RiP becomes much better. The main second thing it hits are Lingering Souls, which IME are pretty good against...

I also find it odd that he says "you won't face this if you dodge it round 1 so you're in the winning brackets"; and cites a list that just top8'd? It's such a self-contradicting point it seems...

Options; from best to worst:

* Flying. The TNN decks normally don't have a lot of flyers. Avenger is what D&T spammed back when TNN first came out and it did fine IIRC

* Manriki-Gusari was...

No it's not? Hoping they don't discard your hate bear, Kill you T1, or just go off through your hate is very much in their favor.

Additionally, helping with Elves, and stopping every kind of...

IMO, GW or GWx D&T is just maverick. They evolved the deck to be mana-denialy and embraced Green.

If you want acceleration, I'd probably just go Chrome Mox. 2x Chrome Mox in place of Plains would...

I have a feeling that he's not good enough. Three mana is a lot when you want to be Porting/Wasting.
Comboing with Containment Priest means turning off your Vial in advance, making it difficult to...

I think Storm is the only MU I ever pull it in. It takes a turn to get going but swinging for 5 on a 1/x is fine and building counters so you can threaten Reanimator's fatties with +2/+2's or simply...

That and 3/4 Delver decks (4/5?) run Red. (Grixis, RUG, BURG, and if you really want to count it, Patriot.
Hosing BUG (assuming no counters and no Decay) is fine, but the others just kill your dude...

EDIT: The TL;DR version is Finn's post. I didn't see that. Below describes why you bluff STP and don't show Karakas in probably too-much theory crafting. But one of my best magic buddies started...

In response to the problem Elves MU this is our conversation.








Strawman argument:

SFM MUs are fine to go Gobs as long as you do it early enough. I would wager you'd see Lemnear and Bryant talking about it in the TES thread. I mean this only for T1/T2 EtW and only with 10+/14+, and...

You guys were experimenting with Teeg like.. a month ago? Why not experiment with *the eensiest* black or red splash and nail them with Persecution after Persecution (or E.Plague.) You could also do...

I think he's concerned that you're running this land, someone wastes it in response to Cataclysm and you gain nothing, but have a shakier manabase in as moons come back in to the meta.

From an outsider's perspective:
Mangara >>> CJ

I'm not big on Mangara; but CJ can't be vialed, can't build a lock, is tax'd by Thalia and hits a total of what... 3 more permanents in *legacy*?...

(I'm more of a powder keg guy myself, for Affinity/Manlands but) it's a good out to Goblins (the storm kind) since it's a 2-mana tutorable answer to the best route to victory they can take. Belcher...

@barbed
I'll be at the Portland open. I'll have to say hi and be obnoxious in person. I'll probably see you the following week (and everyone else who attends the SCG Portland) in Seattle as well.

I honestly haven't tried either. My burn MU is abysmal and basically depends on how bad the opposing player is. Once I realized I could be dedicating 4+ cards in the sideboard to it and probably...

Wait.. so CoP bugs you even though it does block Flame Rift and PoP, but Leyline is what you use and it can't?

In D&T I think Leyline is reasonable, but I should mention that storm's likely plan...