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Mud was huge in my meta when I used to TES it up and unless they draw tons of wastelands it's not too hard of a MU with an early win or early disruption. Going first helps a lot, but most list will...

I just want to chime in here with some thoughts after not following this thread for a while due to me getting bored of TES recently. TES in its new form is sexy. Probes are great. MD empty is great....

Hive mind is relatively easy as long as they don't show and tell emrakrul on turn 1.

Agreed, I'm gonna test it when it comes out as a 1 of in the board. I'm gonna keep dr also as it's a less mana intensive option to combo.

When I test it I'll probably test it with a list with 2...

Let me chime in here since there's some talk about people testing a mana base to help against wasteland. I tested it last year when my meta was completely bat shit rampant with wastelands and I...

Maybe we can beat their wastelands with wastelands of our own!!!!!!!

Played the 4 probe list tonight at the local tourney and went 4-0. Beat some durdly mono white control deck with scepter chant and other bs, beat rug, maverick and ranimator. The 12 lands didn't...

If you really want 4 probes, cut a burning wish. I promise you won't miss it. You won't be able to tell the difference between 3 and 4 wishes anyways, and the deck will still be as consistent.

Hence why I wouldn't cut anything for a 3rd probe because it makes your deck worse.
Anything you cut for the 3rd probe will make the deck worse.

And that's also why I like the 2 ad nauseam list....

Machahiko actually sums it up perfectly on why cutting on lands would be horrific.



You need as many mana sources as you can get against RUG or they just lock you out of playing magic. With...

If you want to add 1 or 2 more probes most people will cut a tendrils/ buring wish/ and protection spell maindeck... I was running the 4 probe version for a while and all I can say is for the most...

In my experience playing this deck, Hive Mind is a really, REALLY easy MU once you learn how to properly play it because, for the most part, you can pay for any pact they throw at you. It only gets...

Yea but don't come crying to me when someone shows up and blows you out with chalice :D.
I still prefer 1 truth because it's better against blue decks that pack meddling mage. You don't really want...

I love having the 2nd ad nauseam. For one it makes your DR win higher due to having another business spell, and two it makes your opening 7's better as a natural ad nauseam and any mana source is...

I've won off an ad nauseam at at a relatively low life total while flipping an ad nauseam. The decks curve is so low you won't fizzle hitting ad nauseam unless you are 9 or so with zero mana...