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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    I think even WITH moxen the UUU is tough.

    It was tough in the Whir build with only 3 non islands.
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    I can prob whip it up quick

    4 grindstones
    4 painters
    4 whirs
    4 brainstorms
    4 ponders/preordain whichever
    1 spellskite
    1 ensnaring bridge
    1 ethersworn canonist
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    I may swing back to mono U with the recent bannings. Czech pile on a down tick means a while before the Hymn+FOW+abrupt Decay decks wreck me.

    Also considering splashing White. as said before the...
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    If a spell is modal and has "target" twice printed, then spellskite can change each target.

    If the spell or ability only says "target" once, like elder deep fiend, or Forked bolt, then it does NOT...
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    Things I was trying out. Echoing Truth is better IMO.

    I like Jace. Didn't have it. Tezzeret gets wincons straight up rather than brainstorming for them. Can also grab bridge.


    Smugglers copter...
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    Haven't tried the transformational SB but otherwise a pretty stock mono U list.
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    I'd probably bring it in post sb with another RIP.

    i have enough stuff to test it out, but will probably wait a while. working on slivers now. :P
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    I think most variations are posted here.

    I think the problem is the combo can work in any color combo deck. So far I've seen:

    Mono u, mono r, rw, rwb, br, ubr, UB, ur

    I'm thinking of going...
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    Whir has been the best card for me. Mono blue isn't all gas like other color combos IMO. It's more responsive. The instant speed and artifact convoke is insane and usually gets anything I want turn 3...
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    the original was on mtggoldfish/hareruya by koikawa shun

    other than posting in the thread this is what I'll be playing tomorrow night:

    4 stone
    4 painter
    4 whir
    4 bstorms
    4 ponder
    2 ratchet...
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    Whir is my new favorite card. I play mono blue though.

    Considering going white instead of red. Access to STP, canonist and tutor is obvious. Feel like canonist can help with counter wars.

    Also...
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    I've been thinking it's possible the 4 missing cards were Tormods crypt and 3 blasts the whole time with 4 card missing from the SB.

    I've been playing with Tezz and bridge maindeck and been great....
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    I'm usually talking mono U.

    I have welders and blasts. Need tarns and volcs.

    Plan is to run mostly mono U list, fit the 4 welders in and 3-4 blasts main deck.

    Deck easily has room for it.
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    I have LEDs and never really wanted them in this deck. I feel like (not tested) that intuition with welder is probably still better.

    I like that interaction. It is faster, something like that you...
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    I like that a LOT.
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    I'm at the point of being convinced Whir of Invention is better than Transmute Artifact.

    Tap not sac.

    Similar cost actually. Most times at UUU it's actually cheaper.

    Instant speed > Sorcery....
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    I had similar thoughts.

    I liked counterspell.

    daze seemed chunky to me as you want UUU for whir.

    Main deck tezzeret instead of jace? Or does the dividing of win cons help? maybe a 1/4 split?...
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    List?
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    Aether spellbomb? The new grave hate scry artifact? Spyglass?

    Thinking of trying old Tezz in the deck.
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    I've been playing Dredge and now Red storm to gear up for EW.

    Daze has been good, but would probably not run it mained. I've picked up more blasts an ensnaring bridge and spellbomb to try out now....
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    I've been wanting to mash in an Aether Spellbomb.
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    I actually get flooded. A LOT.

    May drop one tomb and one island.

    It's frustrating when the scenario happens of "Ponder. See 3 islands. Shuffle. Draw island. Brainstorm. 2 islands in the 3...UGH"
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    That's a legit response, and I've heard that from someone else as well.

    Daze as been pretty good. I can test Hydroblast next.
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    Been playing with Probes for 2 weeks. it's been dead 100% of the time or actually a hindurance. It does nothing in this deck.

    edit-in addition, no other painter deck plays probes that i've seen.
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    Re: [Deck] Painter-Stone

    I saw a list with 1 bridge and 3 lotus petals mained. Seems good to me.

    I'll be trying different things, but so far love the list and Whir of Invention is actually fantastic. My favorite card in...
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