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The Planeswalker rule change is a pretty interesting one. In particular Garruk Relentless/Garruk, The Veil-Cursed got a massive upgrade because it's now possible to have both sides on the...

I've found Grasping Dunes in the Sylvan Plug discussion. Seems interesting - while not as powerful as Cabal Pit, not requiring threshold or black mana seems huge. But maybe it's too slow, who knows.

Your build is a bit different, but yes, Ballista would probably be a good addition.

@morgan_coke: The complete lack of MD creature removal outside of Warping Wail sounds troublesome.

@Highexalted: Lotus Cobra sounds interesting in this kind of shell - aside from fixing mana,...

Probably the latter.

I do wonder how the green Stompy version is going to deal with creatures AND the combo match-up more effectively. Chalice and Ballista are a nice start, but looking at Thalia...

How have the Deserts and Copters been for you? No Chalice obviously spells trouble against combo.

Has anybody the Loam list from Mats saved? It looked like the most reasonable one at dealing with...

Since many people run alot of Libraries, I wonder if anybody has tested the old-school combo with Abundance. Drawing 3 each turn while filtering out what you don't need sounds pretty good to me.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/159101255

Mats played an interesting version of the deck, forsaking MD Chalices for Explorations, Crop Rotations and the Dark Depths combo alongside Loam. He went 8-2...

The creature density of the deck is probably to low to make good use of it.

@MD.Ghost: The lack of removal aside from Ballista is going to hurt you badly.

I could see a version of Words/PF working if you go full "Pew Pew Pew" mode while hiding behind Ensnaring Bridge/Glacial Chasm. If you stay GR, the opportunity cost to run both is pretty low, aside...

I'm not sold on MD Trinisphere. Whenever I play a deck with Sol lands, it starts in the MD and wanders into the SB eventually. The uselessness/backfire potential is just too great in many match-ups....

Slots are premium, so I'm not too sure about it. Shooting down stuff with Words of War once you're empty-handed is pretty cool, I guess, but I don't think it scales up to Sylvan Library (which is...

Good find. Like Beast Within, it comes with baggage attached, so it's hard to say which one is better. Or maybe both suck.

Definitely on my long "to-test" list.

Probably not.

Magus of the Moon as a Wish target is an interesting thought. The deck can clearly operate under Blood Moon, even though it loses a bunch of its utility when it can't use its land...

Got to play a few more games, even against some real decks like Maverick or D&T. The deck definitely needs some work, but it does have potential:

- Tabernacle is THE SHIT against creature-heavy...

You're the MVP of the day. Not because Words of Wilding is great, but because it made me remember another card of the cycle: Words of War

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About time. Wasn't up a few hours ago.

First impression: Ballista is a very good Magic card. And it would be nice to once not run into a B/g deck with a metric shitton of basics. :rolleyes:

Except when they go off with Glimpse and do repeated DRS activations after providing enough fodder for it. It isn't a 100% fool-proof plan. I've seen Julian pull it off often enough on his stream to...

Edit: I want to see test results of the deck first, but we might consider Beast Within as potential removal card. The CC of :2::g: fits the deck perfectly. It really depends on how problematic the...

I like the idea of Chasm, especially sitting behind it and building up a huge Ballista to snipe your opponent to death. But with we want to go with the recursive plan for it, dealing with GY hate is...

Yeah, I came to the same conclusion after trying it out. I'm probably running a few MD Ballistas instead. Stilll trying to figure out how I could squeeze more removal in aside from Ballista.

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Revoker also disables DRS.

I'm not sold on Sea Gate Wreckage - it just seems so expensive and clunky when Horizon Canopy and Tracker provide much better draw engines.

When building the deck, we...

Smokestack is slow and seems kinda meh without the CoW Naga.

I might cut the splash for Black, DRS and the Jitte for a second main deck KotR, a Horizon Canopy and a Tabernacle, with a Tabernacle...

Posted this in the Sylvan Plug thread before, but the list is probably too different to be in the same deck:

3 City of Traitors
3 Wasteland
4 Ancient Tomb
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Karakas
1 Bayou
2...