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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    Couldn't wait so i put together the Grixis list and gave it a go (6games, eldrazi, UR delver,Grixis delver, cloudpost, hogaak, Bant Joreal control )
    It did poorly. :frown:

    Initial testing feels...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    On Grixis
    Ah, i didn't know Hapless Researcher exist, could give that a try for more creature+cycling.
    I dunno about flamewake either, just want to have something that i can cast from the grave or...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    I will try to play the Grixis list when i have the time again.
    I think the list will more or less be the same as what you mentioned but i want to try flamewake pheonix + Insolent Neonate.
    SB as...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    I was playing the UB list below the whole day yesterday. I think this has been the smoothest list i played so far, not having to worry much about wastelands and green source. Suprisingly it did...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    I am online testing out both the UB and Grixis version now...tweaking around

    1)By the way curious about the vengeful pharaoh inclusion, any reason? Because i think most of the time we are the ones...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    Hey Safety, sorry i have been away for awhile. Got to play abit this couple of days on your list with bloodgast/almagrams.
    I think the list is fine as it is, the only thing that i feel should be...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    Tried abit of the standard hogaak list but i find it to not be as explosive compared to SHIV (maybe that's why the comparison with Oops all spells xD). Although overall it grinds really well and...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    Hmm what kind of on-board problems did you encounter? If it's blockers/creatures, i like snuff out, it really helps ramp out DS. Otherwise against borrower would do fine as well, but sometimes we go...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    Preordain might be better with the deck? I know people are going to flame me with the "brainstorm best legacy card etc..." but with so little fetches and no reliable way to shuffle, preordain or...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    Replacing 3xpetals with lands shouldn't affect the deck too much overall, probably giving up the occasional T1 all in for some wasteland resilience. Maybe like :
    +1 verdent catacombs
    +1 island (i...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    Ah...there's already a thread running oath of ghouls.
    Initially i wanted to use call of the netherworld to gain some CA + recycle creatures countered or discarded but call requires the creature to...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    Tomorrow i will just try out :
    -4x death shadow
    -1x reanimate
    -3x thoughtseize
    -Shocklands

    +3x Oath of Ghouls
    +1x hooting mandrils
    +4x Cabal Therapist (placeholder)
    +Duals
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    With the Mandrils/Hogaak/GGT combination, the most important thing is not to get molested in the first 2turns and have 2lands up on T2. Once opponent allow us that, we can go HAM. Being able to have...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    Update: Played a couple of games with the altered legacy version...its way slower on putting power onto the board, however it can be super grindy with the Squees and multiple Cephelid coliseums,...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    Yea, i guess it really depends on your local meta. Veil really strong against these nasty storm comboes, but T1 thoughtseize from other decks is still extremely potent against us.

    Anyway i have...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    Just a quick update as i managed to get afew games going :

    2-1 Dredge
    Noteworthy remarks: Won g3 via a T1 hollow one, then daze on opponent's careful study. Opponent did not draw into discard...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    I think CC can be a really great addition to the deck at the cost of a basic swamp. We hit threshold much faster now with just a single Gtroll, CC can also help play DS little bit earlier. Depending...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    Really appreciate that... it's so generous of you to have the list featured on the front page.
    I mean after all you came up with the idea and it's your thread, i pretty much just meddle around with...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    The rainbow list and SHIV kind of plays differently in how it produces it's threats. No doubt feeder can grow really big with crawler + bridge "combo", it's also kind of a infinite blocker. It just...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    Yea i chose mandrils because of trample (too many coatls flying around nowadays) and also delve5 which can matter because of how we want to have it available asap for vengevine trigger. Between 4/4...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    Managed to playtest alot today, going back and forth different card choices like Hogaak/Gravetroll/bloodghast/rootwallas/prized amalgram/hooting mandrils/deep analysis and alot more...even trying out...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    You are right that SHIV does have a gameplay quite different to Hogaak decks.
    Correct me if i am wrong but i do think SHIV has the potential to be less devastated by perm GY hate by playing...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    Update: So i managed to get 2 games going today with the "Hogaak shadow".

    1-2 Against Red Painter
    Game 1 was won pretty quicky via T1 looting discarded Gtroll & bloodghast. Dredge 6 and managed...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    Viability wise he did managed to cling a 5-0 league so it must have done pretty well.
    I think we are incline to give the deck a go. Maybe like 5-6games to get a feel of how it compares to SHIV....
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    Saw someone posting a Hogaak/death shadow list (by: CharkAttack) in reddit :


    Creatures [36]
    3 Carrion Feeder
    3 Death's Shadow
    3 Golgari Grave-Troll
    3 Street Wraith
    4 Bloodghast
    4...
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