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  1. Thread: UW Echo Stompy

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    Re: UW Echo Stompy

    Okay, so for the first chunk of cards you listed, that would be more for a Spanish Inquisition style Affinity list without Chalice. The problem with a list like that is that it's all-in Belcher...
  2. Thread: UW Echo Stompy

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    Re: UW Echo Stompy

    You mentioned a lot of obscure cards, so I tagged them for reference.

    Burnt Offering
    Sacrifice
    Energy Tap
    Morbid Curiosity
    Rush of Knowledge
    Broodstar
    Mycosynth Golem
    Steel Sabotage
  3. Thread: UW Echo Stompy

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    Re: UW Echo Stompy

    The only slot I'm not sure about, and it's definitely metagame dependent, is Dispatch/Swords to Plowshares. This could also be Abrade, Veil of Summer, or Pyroblast, which are all extremely strong...
  4. Thread: UW Echo Stompy

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    Re: UW Echo Stompy

    LOVING the new changes, btw. The deck is starting to feel so streamlined at this point.

    With that aside...

    Veil of Summer is a consideration in place of Defense Grid for dealing with both...
  5. Thread: UW Echo Stompy

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    Re: UW Echo Stompy

    A couple more changes I want to try out.

    With Hullbreacher now, I'd really like to try out the 2 Ancient Tomb again. There's enough critical mass to warrant them.

    Accelerating out a turn 1...
  6. Thread: UW Echo Stompy

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    A couple of changes. These might be temporary, considering I change my mind back and forth constantly, but this is where I'm at.

    Emry is the weakest card in the deck, I think. Digging 4 deep into...
  7. Thread: Maralen's Agent

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    Re: Maralen's Agent

    What's the point of Thoughtscour? Is Nighthawk actually worth it?

    Predict seems like it has strong potential with Scheming Symmetry, albeit slow.
  8. Thread: UW Echo Stompy

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    Re: UW Echo Stompy

    I'm basically stuck, and keep coming back to where I was at before.

    Do I really want to cut 2 Monastery Mentor for 2 Hullbreacher?

    Hullbreacher is obviously busted when combined with...
  9. Thread: UW Echo Stompy

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    Re: UW Echo Stompy

    Completely agree. I tinkered around with Erayo Affinity too, and it sucked balls. The deck only had Thoughtcast to refuel its hand, which was in no way enough to offset the large number of horribly...
  10. Thread: UW Echo Stompy

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    Re: UW Echo Stompy

    I really want to fit Teferi back in the maindeck because it is so good at protecting Echo (or eating countermagic), protecting Mentor for long enough to generate a bunch of tokens so that removal...
  11. Thread: UW Echo Stompy

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    Well, to be fair, that was because those old Affinity decks were running junk cards like Ornithopter, Phyrexian Walker, and Shield Sphere as free artifacts to trigger it, so most of the draws and...
  12. Thread: UW Echo Stompy

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    Re: UW Echo Stompy

    I apologize to anyone who read through most of my ramblings today.

    At any rate, I deleted most of the massive walls of text and back and forth solo discussion that I had with myself.

    The long...
  13. Thread: UW Echo Stompy

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    Re: UW Echo Stompy

    That's literally no different from what it's doing in here though. I have Narset, LED, and Echo too.

    The benefit to the mono blue version, is that deck has a difficult time casting Narset on turn...
  14. Thread: UW Echo Stompy

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    I think it has more to do with The Source being super dead these days, but still, I see activity on other threads, so I'm just going to assume it's because I have no MTGO or big paper tournament...
  15. Thread: UW Echo Stompy

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    Re: UW Echo Stompy

    Another interesting approach is to cut white for black. I don't think it would be better at all, but it's still an interesting idea to brew with. You get Baleful Strix to combo with Emry,...
  16. Thread: UW Echo Stompy

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    Re: UW Echo Stompy

    I don't get to play too much these days, so my testing is pretty limited. I'm hoping to be more involved with magic more this winter, but we'll see how that goes.

    In the few games that I have...
  17. Thread: UW Echo Stompy

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    Re: UW Echo Stompy

    Decided to cut 2 Mox Amber for 2 Cavern of Souls. Mox Amber was okay in testing, but sometimes unreliable as a mana source.

    I want to try Caverns again. Uncounterable turn 1 Erayo is pretty...
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    Re: Commander Legends Spoilers

    Chancellor of the Annex seems pretty good too, actually. It gives you opening hand disruption that can then come into play with Court. You need a decent density of fatties to make the card good, and...
  19. Thread: Zoo

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    Re: Zoo

    You could also consider going even higher on fetchlands. You likely never need more than 4 actual lands in play, and Wayward Guide-Beast can return lands back to give you retriggers later if you need...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    Well yeah, the nature of having recurring threats makes the deck great at grinding out opponent's in grindy matchups when you can adequately fight through the graveyard hate. The bigger problem is...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    The inclusion of more lands instead of Lotus Petal makes more sense if you're running Bloodghast, especially since your list has transformed away from turn 1 speed and is more focused on getting big...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    The Caverns are not feasible in the Shadow list, but they work out perfectly fine in the rainbow list. The only non-creature spells I'm attempting to cast maindeck are Therapy and Once Upon a Time....
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    Well yeah, Rootwalla beatdown itself isn't strong at all, it's the turn 1 Hollow One's and Vengevine's that are. Rootwalla simply facilitates the turn 1 Vengevine's and Hollow One's more...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    I don't mean to take away from the discussion of the Shadow version by posting this, but this is what I am referring to by more speed:

    Lands (12)
    4 Cavern of Souls
    4 Undiscovered Paradise
    4...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    That diagnosis pretty much lines up with exactly what I've been saying.

    The strength of this deck is its ability to overwhelm the opponent on turns 1-2 with too much for them to deal with. Slowing...
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