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There is still a difference though because counterbalance is obviously more effective against zoo and storm combo then negate would be in that regard.

Also, he's probably running paths because...

How so? Your list doesn't run counterbalance in any of the 75. I don't mean to be a jerk but this seems like a difference that's worth mentioning.

Nice to see you post in the landstill thread again Marius.

I like the build, it seems fitting in the current environment. Reminds me of one of Citrus God's builds actually. I remember he had 4...

I definitely like the Preacher tech Geoff and it seemed to work for you rather well in your tournament experiences.

I got a chance to test preacher myself and I ended up boarding him in a good...

Why do you think he runs Eternal Dragon then? E. dragon is like the ultimate manafixer in UW(x) Landstill. Not to mention, Citrus also runs a handful of plains and islands as well.

In a more...

Good point, this is another reason why I think Cunning Wish should be put back into Landstill especially since alot of us still run Fact or Fiction.

When playing against ITF I always find countering their intuitions to be a productive strategy. ITF can be a difficult deck to deal with if you let their intuitions resolve. Intuition is basically a...

I never said confident wasn't good against landstill. All I am saying is we run alot of answers already for cards such as confidant and tarmogoyf. Of course dark confidant, would be bad for us since...

Well it's definitely possible to play landstill without spell snare you just have to mulligan better and play more tightly. Geoff Smelski didn't even run spell snare in one of his latest builds and...

Well the point I am trying to make is, I think spell snare would be much better off in the sideboard instead. I just think it's too narrow of a card to be worth in the main.

As for the threshold...

I have been testing the 3/3 spellsnare/counterspell configuration for awhile and I haven't really liked it all that much the last time I tested. Since then, I have switched back to just running 4...

I see what your saying Mossivo but this still doesn't change the fact that Citrus God boards accordingly for any given matchup and alot of players do that in fact.

However, I think the more dead...

What made you assume this?

Relic of progenitus, Tormod's crypt, and runed halo are totally different cards from Humility so I don't really see your arguement or correlation(s) for that matter....

Citrus God is right keeping Humilities in is a huge liability especially with everyone running Krosan Grips in this format. To be honest, I feel much more secure casting an Elspeth in the same medium...

This is very true. In this situation, the idea of running COP: red can be rather flawless. However, I imagine some form of manifestation like pithing needle and/or Krosan grip will await you in game...

Well I am glad some people still agree with me after not being able to post that much on here. Props to Jak.

Anyway, back on topic.

@Mossivo: I wasn't really suggesting that Counterspell was a...

I think Negate is marginal at best compared to Counterspell. I utilize counterspell usually around turn 3 anyway and as the clock turns counterspell gets incrementally stronger. Obtaining two blue...

Ever since grip was printed I never seem to really like Humility all that much either. I mean aggro-control players can just time walk you right out of the game if they nail your Humility with Krosan...

Against storm combo I'd rather run Chalice of the void. You can shut off substantially more resources with a 0 cc chalice as oppose to a 2 cc runed halo/meddling mage. Then you can just dismantle...

Well it actually takes a different mentality to play Bardo's Landstill correctly compared to something like Cunning Landstill. I happen to like Counterbalance in Landstill since it makes the...

Actually Bardo's current Landstill list reminds me more of MUC except with a aggro-control shell built in. Seems pretty solid though Bardo. One question I have to ask is do you miss pernicious deed...

I would have to agree about your reasoning with Ajani vs Crucible arguement. Ajani is in fact better since he is difficult to kill for most decks and fits the role of being a mid/late game power on...

Mainly pithing needle which shuts down one of your most efficient cards in engineered explosives and that is huge in most cases. Engineered explosives is one of the main reasons why Landstill is...

Addition of mortify does sound rather interesting in cunning landstill. I think another disenchant effect in the board does seem strong to me. Considering the alternative option of removing card...

After some testing with DIF with his landstill this morning. I tend to have mix feelings about the inclusion of spell snare over counterspell. When I was testing against aggro loam about half of the...