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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    Is Standstill dead as long as Beans exists?

    It's tough to justify building a different game plan around Standstill when UWx can curve out Beans for 1G and jam every good control spell without as...
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    Other useful tech in this build...

    Many proactive turn 1 plays that curve under T2 Standstill: Jewel, Currency Converter, Rod

    T1 Jewel curves into T2 EOT 2/2 Shark. In general, Sharks can get...
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    Depends on the game state. I've gone for both Lost Mine and Dungeon of the Mad Mage so far. Tomb of Annihilation is too suicidal.

    Between Lost Mine and Dungeon, it really depends on how long it...
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    The Enigma Jewel, aka blue Sol Ring, looks like it has potential here. It curves out turn 1 under Standstill, pitches to Force, and pays for all the many activated abilities.

    I've been testing...
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    Again, this isn't a controversial opinion. Look at top non-Standstill UWr lists or other fair blue control lists. They're on Lorien but 0 Sea Gates & 0 tapped artifact lands. You only see Sea Gates...
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    Brainstorm + land/Sea Gate vs Lorien + worst blue card:

    There are already 23 lands. More lands that don't have a spell-mode lead to flooding, so that option is out. The land needs to be a "spell"....
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    I suppose they're imagining a Delver midgame where you've been sandbagging lands to return with Brainstorm. Landstill never does that. You keep playing out lands most of the time, so in the lategame...
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    True. But it only has that mode, while Lorien includes other modes too. They're equivalent on turn 1 but Bridge leads to more flooding late (higher number of non-spell lands).

    Edit: Compared to...
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    So we're on almost identical pre-Lorien mana.

    I'm on just 2 Timeless, so only 2 white duals needed. I've found the 3rd Shark better than the 3rd Timeless, though I appreciate Timeless helping...
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    Bridge enters tapped.

    Lorien can get basic or dual, cycles through Standstill (cantrips don't), makes a 2/2 with converter, costs 0 life for the slow control deck, and does "draw 3" late more...
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    @PirateKing: I used to play 2 Sagas. I cut them for the same reasons Fox mentions.

    Early Saga is great when they don't pop Standstill, but most players will pop Standstill immediately these days,...
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    Updated version:


    //Lands: 23
    4 Flooded Strand
    4 Prismatic Vista
    1 Tundra
    1 Volcanic Island
    1 Raugrin Triome
    3 Island
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    I tested Court at 2 copies. It took over every game it resolved in.

    In one game I hemmorhaged my hand (FoW + FoN) to resolve Court on an empty board, after getting Standstill disrupted. But then...
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    Court of Ardenvale seems very strong here as a draw engine / Sevinne on a stick. Maybe as a 1-of or 2-of? Maybe it could take the spot of a 4 cmc planeswalker for UWr. It functions as a...
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    Good point. Probably win-more.

    The 1/1 blocker does a weak job of extending the game. I was comparing it to Narset, but that slot could be something else like Dress Down, Force of Negation, or a...
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    Imho his manabase was the problem there. He runs fewer ways to get basic Plains and many UU spells, so the mana is more dependent on nonbasics. Then you see the deck engaging in lines that are weak...
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    Bosh N Roll plays "A Shark's Tale": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU1VhKSS8CU

    3-2 League

    //Lands: 20
    4 Flooded Strand
    2 Prismatic Vista
    1 Scalding Tarn
    2 Tundra
    1 Volcanic Island
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    Bosh N Roll recently played a solid (non-meme) Standstill deck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXSFhGypum4

    Featuring new tech: Staff of the Storyteller

    Staff has a lot of potential with all...
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    With EI banned, Landstill looks in a good place to be a dominant fair blue deck.

    Although the green tech was fun, red splash for Pyroblast is probably more competitive.


    //Lands: 23
    4...
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    I tested out the Bant version against some decks (UR Delver, GW Depths, BR Reanimator, Green stompy, Storm).

    Overall the shell seems strong, winning against everything except Reanimator (and...
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    UGW Yorion LandsStill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8somslPBns
    3-2 in league

    BoshNRoll's list
    //Companion: 1
    1 Yorion, Sky Nomad

    //Lands: 32
    3 Misty Rainforest
    3 Flooded Strand
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    Agree Currency Converter is strong. I assume you're avoiding artifacts because of 2x Meltdown 1x Stony Silence? Currency Converter gets value so quickly that it's probably worth it, and you can board...
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    Several UWr Standstill results made it on mtgtop8 recently: https://mtgtop8.com/archetype?a=34&meta=39&f=LE

    Including 12th in the Aug 22nd Legacy Challenge with SharklessStill (and no Ponder)
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    The popularity of non-HullDay UWr is so strange:
    https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/legacy-jeskai-control#paper

    A deck like this wants 2-mana card advantage so it jams EI, when it could so...
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    Re: [Deck] UW(x) Landstill

    Yeah, it seems pretty safe to go:
    -4 Ponder
    +1 Vista
    +1 Otawara
    +1 Map
    +1 Verdict

    I've never felt flooded on 23 lands. Especially when those lands include Urza's Saga & Heliod. Between that...
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