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Oh yes, I'm a bit more clear now on the matter. Thanks for the polite response. I always expected just a fast naught to be able to win it... Do you ever side out CBT in the non-zoo, non combo match...

oh like the piledriver thing.. +2/+0 thing
gotcha.
sorry I don't follow this thread enough.
I also searched kira and kira, on the thread search and nothing showed up, so you can't really blame me....

@ Kira >> Thought about this.. doesn't work. You can't stifle your dreadnaughts afterwards.

@ academy ruins >> I like academy ruins but the 12/12 goes farming more often than does it dies, so...