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Can we sticky this and close the thread? :laugh:

A decent Nic Fit list doesn't rely on Explorer triggers and cares very, very little about TNN & YP... So what's your point, exactly..?

Sounds like a good time to play Nic Fit :laugh:

Called it!

I can help with the name... I call it "Fuck you, cantrip!". Not sure if it'll really catch on though.

Or "Screw cantrips" if we're going for an artifact/enchantment.

But I don't need to poop... Nor do I have the desire to cross the ocean before taking a dump :laugh:

Yeah, but I like those too. So don't touch the stuff that I like, ok..? :laugh:

Fuck me, I'm a hypocrite dammit.

@Julian23: Seems to me like WotC is saying "We're not banning or unbanning a...

Hey, if banning Brainstorm is off the table what can we do..? Lol

I'd ban both Brainstorm and Ponder, to be honest. Just to shake shit up.

Fun police to me is the suite of 0 mana counters we have available.

If Brainstorm is to never be banned, at least entertain the idea of banning the next worst offender (so Ponder).

Every blue...

On the Forsythe article - we're up for banning anything unless people like it. Hypocritical bullshit. I'm fine with keeping the fun police around (really can't have Legacy without it), but everything...

Yes, and that's why DRS should be banned.

This board is hilarious :laugh:.

I'm perfectly happy with the format as it is, by the way. No need to ban anything at the moment as far as I'm...

Destructive Flow has been done to death. It's too inconsistent (b/c you only have 4 copies) and too slow. That's why you don't see it. Also, while a single T16 isn't adequate data it does show that...

Then give up your combo MU and play Nic Fit, you Muppet :laugh:.

Your other option is to go w/ Manaless Dredge. It doesn't care about mana denial and very little about DRS.

Mana denial - it's...

I'm telling you to have some fucking fun with it and see where you might end up rather than sitting around on your ass and bitch that the world doesn't change itself for your convenience :laugh:.
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Meh, everything dies to removal. Removal never stopped anyone or solved anything (and obviously only fuels the DRS, only motivating the DRS v. DRS MU we suddenly care about. Delver v. Delver was...

Meh, can't be cast off Sol land. And it forces you to mess w/ your own list. I want Inventors' Fair to be a thing.

Fortunately those decks do prey on the blue DRS decks. And then fold to the blue decks that don't run DRS (and/or Delver).

Seriously, the bitching about DRS is just stupid. It thrives in the meta...

Meh, DRS is fine. It gives non-blue decks a tool to do some damage vs. GY strategies and combo.

If you want to stop seeing DRS just stop playing Reanimator/ANT/cantrips/fetchlands :laugh: (i.e....

Hey, we've been telling you to start your gangsta rapping for the longest time now. You've only got yourself to blame, mister.

How high do you think your stormcount should be before you cast your first Mind's Desire..? Stormcount 4/5 is perfectly fine to start the engine. Take it from someone who's actually played the card....

Don't need it. Once Desire gets going the rituals and colour fixes are all you might need.

Concerning Mind's Desire - this is what I ran in Extended at some point (somewhere in 2008, I believe).

3 Chromatic Sphere
4 Chromatic Star
4 Manamorphose
4 Wild Cantor
4 Cabal Ritual
4...

Yes, b/c good creature removal @1 mana is a perfect answer for Prelate. You crazy, crazy bastard.

Besides, there's already plenty of 1 mana creature removal. So what can WotC do to make it even...

Well... A couple of weeks ago I did manage to steal a game b/c a couple of brave Narcomoebas and their friend Stinkweed Imp spent a couple of turns blocking a Merit Lage token while Ichorids and...

Sounds like a plan to me... Ban stuff until anyDelver dominates the DTB section, then just plow through the field with Siege Rhinos. And get those banned too. Or basic lands, b/c Veteran Explorer is...