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Tinker is a 1 card combo. At least Show and Tell requires 4 slots for Show and Tell and 6-8 slots for fatties. Tinker + fatty takes up 5 slots. Do you really want a format where you can potentially...

I wish we had the full meta data. But by looking at recent trends of top 64 -> top 32 -> top 16 -> top 8 conversion, it seems like lands has the best conversion rate. Czech, grixis delver, and...

I agree with much of what you said. Disclaimer: I’m not a blue player, i play elves. It’s no secret that DRS + cantrips is probably the best deck. The question is if the deck is so much better than...

People should be arguing for a top (among other cards) unban, not a DRS ban. When miracles was top dog with top, the vast majority of top 8s had like 1-2 miracles and 1 delver and then 1-2 random...

The best engine is glimpse/heritage druid/nettle sentinel. No other deck can you play 4 Drs, 4 ancestral recall, and 4 tinker.

But is it actually objectively worse if the meta game calls for it? In vintage, oath and dredge is a real thing that some hatebear decks run maindeck containment priests. Objectively speaking, cards...

I think the main issue here is people want to be able to play their own decks, and want their own decks to be "tier 1", but are unwilling to adept. I can only speak from an Elves perspective, but...

With survival, wouldn't new printings like Cage or C. Priest make it less obnoxious?

Anyways as an Elf player, I would love to see what survival would do. However, in the mean time: fuck miracles....

Hypothetically speaking, IF (and that's a BIG if) Miracles gets a card banned to where it's no longer playable, what deck becomes the new pure control DTB? Playing against Miracles can be miserable,...

As an Elves player, I hate Miracles but I don't think Miracles is as oppressive as people are making it out to be. It's basically a 50-50 deck and the tournament data support it. I don't think being...

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Hey 5 nonblue decks in the top 8 of SCG. Can we stop whining about brainstorm now?

Why is Survival banned? Or Fastbond? Or Gush? or Skullclamp?

Wizards set an arbitrary list of rules whether we like it or not. They decided to ban ancestral from the start. If their motto was to...

Ok. I was mistaken then. I was using the shortcut (the shortcut being that I called decks "blue" when I should have explained I meant archtypes) that people here tend to use since people here tend to...

Why is storm the same deck as delver?

Edit: Let's take Lands for example. There were 4 land decks out of 118 in day 2. They placed 91s, 54th, 19th, and 4th. Using a swiss triangle for 118 players...

Why do you group blue decks together? Storm and Delver aren't the same deck. Hell, I bet if I wanted to in Elves, I can change the deck so it goes 70-30 against Storm, SneakNShow, and Reanimator. By...

Because those aren't the same decks?

If a deck can go positive against every single deck, then it's the best deck. Blue or not, there is no deck that's good against everything. Why do you group...

The thing is you can beat blue if you want to. People just don't want to because they don't like dead cards against the rest of the field, but if blue is 70%, why not main deck hate. People want to...

Right, but it's not winning more than it's popularity. If 70/100 people in a room play decks with brainstorm, and 7 out of the top 10 run brainstorm, then brainstorm placed proportionally well to...

Did you see the day 2 data? Every deck was close to 50-50. Blue isn't overpowered. Being popular isn't the same as being over powered.



Yep! That was me. I linked the guy who did it on reddit....

Also look at this on reddit. Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/MTGLegacy/comments/2snyjq/scg_philly_results_for_major_archetypes/

Starcity posted all of the day two decklists from SCG Philly, making...

I got bored so I decided to go to MTG top8: http://www.mtgtop8.com/format?f=LE

I wish I had tournament data as opposed to top 8 data, but this is all I have to work with. So for the past 2 months,...

At this point, I hope the blue shell gets banned just to spite the people who are whining about it. I want to see how much you like a format where your goblin decks just repeatedly get dumpstered by...

And that's basically only UR Delver, and I guess Jeskai stoneblade.

Right, but the different blue decks are weak to different things. UR Delver is weak to fast combo due to the lack of as many counters, SneakNShow is weak to DnT, Miracles is weak to Tron, Storm is...