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Jar is a busted card that probably doesn't need to be unbanned.

But Griselbrand is just as busted in every way and should be banned if Jar is the standard.

Someone played mountain->vise against me on turn 1 the other day. I forced it. Turned out they were playing UR stasis. I beat them in two games with Aetherworks Marvel. But yeah Vise had to languish...

N.B.: Wizards doesn't care about Legacy. But assuming they did in good faith...

It's time to switch the strategy for banning from "the enabler" to "the over the top and ridiculous payoff."...

That's interesting. Still, there should be enough players to run both Legacy and Hextended in that market, no?

The fact that people are making the choice not to play Legacy reflects poorly on the...

speaking of Nedleeds, I saw on Twitter that his LGS is swapping Legacy out for hyperextended.

I also heard of another LGS owner who is concerned that their local legacy scene is "stale."

And...

That was true with Probe was in the format. Now I think it will be a little harder for storm. And I played both sides within the past year. Probe was really dumb.

it is when the other guy plays a 5/5 on turn 3.

Source: tested hollow one decks, consistently had multiple 4/x in play turn 2-3, still couldn't get through gurmag/YP army/TNN

Earthcraft still too strong for Legacy

See you guys in late June

I wouldn’t really consider myself a cantrip hater, but I do tire of starting every deck the same way.

I would like to see more decks that operate on different engines. Fair/Grindy applications of...

It's interesting how many cards are judged on their worst-case scenarios without consideration to how things work in practice.

Like if Food Chain was banned people would be in here saying it...

It’s not that Tinker wouldn’t be stupid, it would be. The point is that we already have this format of force decks vs force check decks vs chalice decks. If tinker were unbanned and there were no...

Amen.

I goldfished a Tinker deck 5 times and these were the results:

T3 tinker with Pyroblast backup
T3 tinker no backup
T2 tinker no backup
T3 tinker Flusterstorm backup
T4 tinker no backup

The thing about Marit Lage/Griselbrand decks is that their whole deck is Marit Lage/Griselbrand. That means you have the opportunity to interact on multiple axes -- you can go after their GY, or go...

What did we say? Haha. I would say we actually represent a range of DRS opinions:

Ban --- Zac --- Phil --- Nate --- Don't ban

But I let Zac and Phil sort of have their time in the sun on it,...

I actually think it would be an interesting experiment to take a Vintage deck that plays:

4 Preordain
1 Ancestral
1 Gush
1 DTT
1 Cruise
1 Brainstorm
1 Ponder
1 Probe

We spend a considerable amount of time on this on Eternal Durdles this week. 57:00-1:04:00 I think. Fuck TNN.

I just get irritated when people act like they are entitled to have their deck be excellent, and other players who simply want their deck to be playable should just go away. There were plenty of...

Congratulations, you're finally starting to hit on why Grixis Delver specifically is so good while other decks, even those that play DRS, aren't! Hint: Not having to pay mana for your plays is super...

Many of us wanted to keep Top too. I looked for my several posts making this same point about Counterbalance but don't really have time to dig back that far. Legacy needs more cards that enable...

I’m just being salty but I was using my life total as a resource while I set up and just got totally punished by the topdeck. It was 18 to 11 I believe.

Yes, I should’ve been able to buy myself...

>fighting attrition battle
>leave opponent with empty board other than lands and 2 blanks in hand
>i have DRS and 4 spirit tokens on board
>opponent topdecks TNN
>opponent topdecks second TNN
...

Right, my apologies for being disingenuous as I know what you meant. I just wanted to show that DRS is thriving in the current legacy context rather than just being brute-force good.

i want to...

Even excluding power specifically I think you can get pretty far before you get to DRS

Duals
Fetches
Bazaar of Baghdad
Mishra's Workshop
Brainstorm
Force of Will
Yawgmoth's Will
Tolarian...

Or just play jace yourself, it's super good with lantern of insight and behind ensaring bridge

All I want is for some lantern player to terminus in a GP off a jace so i can watch the twitch chat...

Earthcraft still too strong for Legacy