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Especially when the BBB cost of Necropotence fits so nicely with T1, Dark Ritual, Necropotence.

Just a funny blast from the past link that I saw in someone's signature - the t32 at Legacy Champs 2007: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/bd295a.

An interesting...

I don't think that he was talking about SoFI vs TNN in general, but at the idea that TNN was the primary reason Mitchell won G3 at SCG Seattle.

I'd say it was commanding. Any removal spell he drew instead of TNN wins the game. Any creature wins the game if it's not blue (since any nonblue creature would just block the Revoker and make it a...

You guys should start a thread like "meta game data thread" and have the top posts be ones that you are constantly updating with the data you're collecting just so lazy people like me don't have to...

I just rewatched the G3 of the SCG Seattle finals and I don't see the same thing you did. TNN didn't even show up until Mitchell's second to last turn where Bauman was at 1 life and Mitchell had a...

I never said you said it was invulnerable (in fact, in my previous post - I actually said "not saying you have" claimed it!), but there have been wails and gnashing of teeth from many who have made...

Given the recent performance of Miracles at GP Paris, I would assume we'll see an uptick in Miracles being played (and thus T8ing) over the next few months. We saw a resurgence of D&T after GP...

But if you're going to use that same reasoning, Jund and Maverick can ignore TNN or be put into the "can deal with equipment" camp. Both of those decks especially deal with equipment much better...

Just curious, but have there actually been 0 T8's by Shardless BUG and Maverick in the Dec-Feb tournaments (that we can mine data from of course).

@Arsenal: looking at the data from that post you...

I think one thing to also keep in mind is that we're all working with very likely extremely flawed data as there's no way we can get the results of every tournament. Even where we draw the line at...

The thing is, the whole "X card forced the meta to deal with it" argument can be applied to any number of cards we've seen. Deathrite Shaman, Delver of Secrets, Stoneforge Mystic, even Tarmogoyf all...

Poor Tarmogoyf and StP get no love? :)

We won't even bring up Brainstorm, hah.

Just a small nitpick, but HSCK's data had Blade Control and Sneak & Show both at 28 points over that time period, so they should really both be occupying the same 5/6 slot.



I think you're...

I'd be curious to see the numbers on UWR delver in the few months before TNN was printed. It wouldn't surprise me to see it doing well, but not on the Jan-Oct list simply because it was a fairly new...

This. TNN is much less scary if he didn't have his girlfriend SFM to do the real heavy lifting for him. Don't get me wrong, I love SFM, but I think that card has had a much greater impact on Legacy...

It's warping the meta so much that even it can't compete! :rolleyes:

Sure looks like to me people are starting to put on their big boy shoes and start to deal with it. Glad to see D&T and Jund...

On top of that, we now have weekly large tournaments (the SCG Open series) that the community is watching. That in itself is rapidly evolving the meta (or at least skewing it) towards what is most...

Gilded Drake? (Gets most things you're going to run into these days)
Peacekeeper?

Your own Emrakul/Ashen Rider/etc is pretty hilarious too.

Really? We're at the point where we're back to wanting to ban a creature that dies to almost all removal and doesn't do anything but attack?

Tarmogoyf is sad he's no longer in the banhammer...

I think Knight of the Reliquary and Tarmogoyf are pretty scary and they don't fly...

I mean seriously - look at Tarmogoyf. Do you really want that thing chasing you through a forest?

Delver is Permission because you have to have his permission to live! :eek:

KotR is also pretty common to see - and you know your opponent will always have it! *shakes fist*

Vampiric and Demonic Tutors both free up a lot more deck space though. Playing Consultation requires you to play your targets as 4-ofs whereas the other two lets you play what you're tutoring for as...

Demonic Tutor and Vampiric Tutor would like to have a word with you :)

I do agree that unbanning Demonic Consultation would be insane though.