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yeah the black seems kind of pointless. vindicate is not a good reason to weaken the deck by removing factories.

I'd need to see a list to be able to comment. I running a duch stax of sorts so my SB is way different.

I would assume that the scales are for the re-animator matchup. stops iona pretty hard.

how is aven mindcensor working for you? please be detailed as it seems like it could be good, but I have never used it so i dont know.

I probably still wouldn't play it even if I could pump as an instant because It would still be inferior to a BSA because it wouldn't randomly win in the early game with 10 point life swings right off...

I would consider it if I could actually pump it as an instant. unfortunately it is a sorcery speed ability so no dodging bolt or gaining extra life from swords.

seems...meh...
looks like a cheaper version of baneslayer but much worse until you pump another 11 mana into it.

agreed, it doesn't fit in a white stax build very well. we cant recur the effect and it is on the expensive side. you would need something like welder/ academy ruins to make it work.

worship.

new artifact:
6 to cast
tap: add 3
3,tap,sac: draw 3


seems like it might be good with metal worker more so than this deck.

pokezel: I'm not bitter about our match, i'm annoyed that I didn't make prizes after being 4-1 in round 5. oh well... next time...

seems like an awful choice... its too expensive and hits our own stuff. I cant think of anything else better off the top of my head though.

I think that the new biggest threat is from bant counter top, and bant NO to as they can gat a 3 or 4 drop on top very easily now, and that just ruins your day.

I only played pendrell flux as a filler for the sideboard, but i might just keep it in now :)

belcher made t8 by wining the die roll against me and then i procede to crap out with stax shortly after ending up 4-3 after being 4-0.

Welcome to capitalism. they're doing things to make them money, good for them.

sorry I should have mentioned, they are for when Im on the draw. also If I'm on the play for fish/goblins I only take 2 chalice out. their mana curve is not predominately at one so playing it...

You may be right, but I'm gonna test it out anyway. I like smokestack but it seems kinda slow to me. worst case scenario: I waste 3 hours testing the zoo match up and cut some of the fields for more...

I'm against cutting smokestack completely, however I do agree it's too slow for an aggro heavy meta. supression field seems like a good canadate for slowing down and heavily distrupting zoo to buy us...

It basicly goes

turn one play chalice @1 or trinnisphere
turn 2 play pemanent
repeat turn 2 play afew more times


if they get out an early goyf, they might win but if they dont stick a...

what about the anti-synergy with chalice?

by slow i mean that was too much of a mana investment for what it did for me, and that i'd rather be using that mana to be casting spells or using horizon canopy to draw cards.

yes and it sucked for me. I tried it in blue stax and it was just too slow.

Yes but this gives you unkillable mishra's factories that dont die to k-grip before blockers are declared... I lose alot of games like that. seems like a solid SB card but it would work better in...

I hope you dont mean the parking lot. lol.