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  1. Re: The ups and downs of a new Belcher (67th at SCG Baltimore)

    I honestly think the hardest part a wish list is the sideboard. Figuring out how and what and numbers is the most difficult part about tweeking a list. I would like to cut a mox myself, but as you...
  2. Re: The ups and downs of a new Belcher (67th at SCG Baltimore)

    Sorry chancellor didn't pan out for you. Did you side it in against thoughtsieze on the draw? I saw this was your biggest problem.
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Belcher

    Obviously bad hands will happen regardless of the build or deck. But having a card that is dead more often than not is bad, let alone the fact that we are talking about a deck that is trying to go...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Belcher

    @ bahamuth: Do you read what you type? The entire point the deck exists is because of consistency. Saying metalcraft is moot is absolutely absurd. Secondly, you said yourself there will be hands...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Belcher

    Obviously reusable sources are ideal, but its still not going to have metalcraft consistently. And mentioning monolith only hurt your argument. And wouldn't manamorphose be the first thing you cut?
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Belcher

    Its called math. You just need to find the odds of drawing a mox with 2 other artifacts, and belcher doesn't count because you usually need belcher for metalcraft to cast itself. Having that many...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Belcher

    If you do a number crunch, you will find its still not viable.
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Belcher

    True. I had actually forgotten that point.
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Belcher

    Library is what I would run. Paired with carpet, you have good late game.
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Belcher

    I still advocate guttural response, it does what you want from pyroblast, but can be cast off of ESG
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Belcher

    I have been on the fence on cutting a mox, but it is a hard source. Chancellor is a personal choice, I don't expect everyone to like it, but it works well for me. As for pyroblast, i have NEVER...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Belcher

    After more testing, this is what I am settling on (at least for now). This is my "WUBRG" Belcher list. I have made it to where the main functions optimally in terms of the first 7 cards with the goal...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Belcher

    I currently do. It also is ideal to tutor for tendrils over belcher when you don't have taiga. And you don't have to have ten mana to tendrils, just most games.
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    Re: [EDH] Maralen of the Mornsong

    If you know it's coming, yes. Most games, my opponent(s) just set up their game plan. And if not with her, I do run tutors. Also, the amount of spot removal in edh is laughable
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    [EDH] Maralen of the Mornsong

    This is my combo version of the deck. I use quick mana excel to get my commander, Maralen of the Mornsong out asap. My first tutor is for Ad Nauseam , which i will also attempt to play asap. Given...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Belcher

    Other points on chancellor and monolith:

    Chancellor can be a win condition. There have been multiple games where I had no other win conditions, 7 mana and chancellor in hand. Game 1 this is a...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Belcher

    I have recently started testing a Land Grant in the side as a wish target. It was originally suppose to just be to test different numbers in the deck, since i seem to get multiple land grant/ land...
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    Re: [Deck] Elves Combo

    http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=141076&d=1365394219

    Had to share the new glimpse. Thoughts? At the least, it will make this a modern deck.
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Belcher

    Though I understand the theory behind cantrips, I am jaded by them because they tend to screw me more than not, hence the list I have been working on that runs 0 cantrips.
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Belcher

    Chancellor of the annex, infernal tutor and sylvan library should be listed as side options, I have also seen multiple lists side in a basic for forest.
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Belcher

    Not usually, I consistantly get 5 to 6 storm, and the consistency of the opening hands. As for chancellor being dead after turn 1, all we care about is the opening 7, the wish board is just a narrow...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Belcher

    After more testing, this is what I am settling on (at least for now). This is my "WUBRG" Belcher list.



    Artifact: 18
    4x Chrome Mox
    4x Goblin Charbelcher
    2x Grim Monolith
    4x Lion's Eye...
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    Re: [Deck] Belcher

    This. Chances that a single duress, inquisition or thoughtseize will stop us are minimal, but still existent. And as I said before, this is games 2 and 3. Most decks that run any of these in the main...
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    Re: [Deck] Belcher

    That's why I have ten sb cards for fow and 8 for thoughtseize. Also there is a 100% chance they know what we are playing game two. You also forgot to calculate the chances they have a blue card to...
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    Re: [Deck] Belcher

    Anything but blue!
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