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Dakkon - Although my list will differ from yours in many respects (my meta has so few creatures right now), I really have been thinking about increasing my basic count. So I'm going to do that now :)...

I for one, absolutely love stifle in landstill. I've said it before; stifling a first or second turn fetch land is extremely powerful. :wink:

The lack of stifle in the common landstill deck-lists...

Since you asked nicely... :tongue:

4 Tundra
1 Academy Ruins
2 Wasteland
4 Mishra's Factory
4 Flooded Strand
2 Polluted Delta
1 Underground Sea
1 Tolaria West

Tonight's Tournament Report: - 15 man 4-Round Swiss

Round 1: 2-1 vs White Geddon Stax (this player won one of the GP trials)
Round 2: 2-0 Enchantress (solitary confinement build)
Round 3: 2-1...

Why not anticipate the moon, fetch basics, and play an interactive game? Moon has never been a problem for me unless I walk into it blindly (player error).

i wasn't joking.

Under the immense...

Yeah but removing a dragon can only make the deck better. :wink:

^ I agree. Elspeth is great. I like to run 2 elspeth. I can't understand not running at least one, and I especially dont understand decklists running 0 els and eternal dragon?! That card is...

I played my "Toolkit-still" build in the Dual Land side event. 50+ players, and the event ran until 3am Sunday Morning, so there were lots of player errors on both sides of the table ;)

First game...

Good advice Konsultant. Merfolk, Survival Elves, Goblins, Faeries, Slivers... These are all threats. Taking out the FoW is the right thing to do.

Klaus. I played your deck at my local event last...

plague is not weak against merfolk at all. it won't win by itself, but it is extremely significant.

That's really not surprising. You make a lot of assumptions without actually testing anything. The comments you've made about card interactions are laughable to anyone who has actually played with...

I assume nothing. I play in two events per week (for the last 12 years) and playtest in between. My statements are from playing the game, not waxing philosophical on a board. :wink:

Spell snare is...

I disagree strongly. Every deck should be interactive from turn one. Standard landstill decks lose because they play one land per turn and lose to decks that simply out tempo them



No. You are...

well obviously, that is my opinion. And yours is yours. Personally, I like a one mana instant sink hole before they can tap for mana... So if sinkhole cost one blue, and said "you play play this...

bleh.

^ Right.

I've been doing lots of testing against progenitus decks (loam, thresh, survival). Does it win? Yes, sometimes. But so far, the natural order combo weakens the decks vs landstill. The...

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Not a bad list. Personally, I'm not a fan of 4 x Spell Snare, and I LOVE 3 stifles. Stifling a first turn fetch is very good as it gives landstill some early tempo and allows the 4cc spells to...

^ Yeah that is all obvious.

I guess my point is that you should have at least ONE crypt on your board for the recursion and tutoring from Tolaria West. I'd never run a sideboard with only relic.
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Relic Vs Crypt:
First turn relic is very nice against anything. But you can't recur it with Academy Ruins or fetch it with Tolaria West, so I like crypt better.

Decklist with B2B main:
Just.....

exactly

And unlike most Plainswalkers, both her abilities ADD loyalty. So the ultimate is always on the horizon. Elspeth is not a "win more" car at all.

It is more like a "Hey, I was losing,...

To the decklist above ^^

Oblivion ring is not a good choice when running EEs IMO. I often lose crucible to an EE, in your deck you'd lose crucible and your own O-ring. Ouch! If you feel you need...

What decks are concerned with that you put in Plagues? I seem to have positive match ups against most tribal decks.

I played another tournament last night. I got 2nd due to tie breakers. My only...

Elspeth, Elspeth, Elspeth. :frown:

Good points. I agree that chalices would be the first cards to go. I like the idea of a SDt, 4th mage, 4th Cb.

Vindicate might work, but it just doesn't play well in my main deck. I would mostly...

good point :eek: . The divert is very MEh against ANT then. They can simply duress your FoW, cast AN, and win. I've used it on my board, and I had a couple spectacular plays with it, BUt I felt that...