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    Re: [Primer] Dredge

    Great response, thanks!

    I was thinking of doing something like 11 lands + 4x OUAT + Xx lotus Petals. The bad dredgers/threats go away (Shambling Shell/Prized Amalgam), the combo goes out (Spy +...
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    Re: [Primer] Dredge

    Well, I still want to play Dredge in some form, not Hogaak. If playing LEDless Dredge isn't viable I'll just stick to Manaless Dredge for now. The reason for adding lands would be so I could have a...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Yes, I know the reliable count is a minimum of 16. This deck doesn't really follow standard conventions, so being a little risky with Forces is par for the course. However, I think I'm going to drop...
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    Re: Krark's Spells

    Just so I'm clear, you're still counting on winning a coin flip with Krark to do any of the combos right? Dual Casting doubles things up reliably but Krark needs you to get lucky?
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    Sticky: Re: Budget Legacy Guide V5

    I'm putting together a couple of Dredge lists, both Manaless and LEDless, to see if they can do some powerful things. LED is obviously insane but well out of my price range. I think some newer cards...
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    Re: [Primer] Dredge

    Big necro here, sorry for that, but I was wondering if there still exists a streamlined non-LED Dredge list? I have started piloting Manaless Dredge, it's a ton of fun but super reliant on a couple...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    I tried the Hapless Researcher list last night, got a few test games in. It isn't looking great. I haven't drawn Hapless Researcher or Mausoleum Secrets yet so I haven't really gotten a strong hold...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Sleaved this up and I am *addicted*. This is an incredibly cool deck. I opted for zero Hogaak for now because I wanted to squeeze in Chancellors. This is my starting list:

    4x golgari grave-troll...
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    Poll: Trading Group

    Years ago on a now defunct website I started up a fairly successful online trading forum. The group ended up with around 200 members and we facilitated thousands of trades across the US and also...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Yeah I'm sold on Hogaak x2, regardless. I just think the strategy of Chancellor + Dread Return could really put a lot of pressure on opponents, giving time to enact the beatdown plan. I was thinking...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    What do you think about this list? The differences are Chancellor of the Annex and Creeping Chill. I really like the idea of Chancellor, but there is no way I would cut Once Upon a Time (which is not...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Cool, thanks for the fast reply. I'll play it out the way you described. I'll get some additional FoN's when I get the chance.
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Awesome, thanks! With Surgical being the most common sideboard hate I think the 1-of Misdirection will be ok until I get something else (Shoal/more FoN.)

    Just so I'm clear, this is what you...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    I just picked up the last few cards to build this deck, here is where I was going to start. Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated!

    4x Stinkweed Imp
    4x Golgari Grave Troll
    4x Golgari Thug...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Pox

    That seems reasonable, for sure. Maindeck Plague Engineers alone would be very powerful. If Smallpox gets cut with a focus on spot removal then there is less reason to go deep into Ensnaring Bridge,...
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    Re: Zoo

    Good thoughts, thanks for the response. I do agree that Lava Dart can be problematic; I'm not sure if something like Mutagenic Growth would be beneficial to combat that or not. In a Shadow version...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] Pox

    I don't really like Plague Reaver, not in a deck playing Smallpox. It makes sequencing awkward, especially given that you can't predict the many turns in the future what your opponent will be...
  18. Re: Measure of Wickedness + Ghoulcaller's Bell

    Cool, thanks. :smile:
  19. Re: Measure of Wickedness + Ghoulcaller's Bell

    Yeah, I knew that the exchange trigger overrules the sacrifice trigger and the controlling player at the time of the trigger still loses 8 life. That part oracle covers neatly. The part I was...
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    Measure of Wickedness + Ghoulcaller's Bell

    End of Turn, my opponent controls Measure of Wickedness, MoW trigger goes on the stack to sacrifice and lose 8 life. In response to the trigger I...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    Hapless Researcher/Mausoleum Secrets list:

    4x Putrid Imp
    4x Hapless Researcher
    4x Death’s Shadow
    4x Vengevine
    4x Hollow One
    4x Street Wraith
    4x Prized Amalgam
    3x Bloodghast
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    That's a good initial response for the red splash, so the next question becomes this: how do we accomplish a strictly UB version? The natural places to look are Brainstorm and Hapless Researcher. The...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    When I was testing with Faithless Looting before, I would often get flooded actually. I was playing 4 Careful Study/4 Street Wraith/4 Once Upon a Time/3 Faithless Looting. I had zero problems with...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    Yes, I would definitely look to Ingot Chewer before Shenanigans, for both Vengevine and Reanimate synergy. Insolent Neonate is likely just worse than Hapless Researcher, simply for Force of Will...
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    Re: SHiV (Shadow-Hollow-Vine)

    If only playing UB, what are you replacing OUAT with? Brainstorm? It would definitely make playing sideboard Forces a cinch.

    Rough Grixis list:

    4x Putrid Imp
    4x Death's Shadow
    4x Vengevine...
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