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  1. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Can't speak to the strength of leovold as I haven't tested him but having to splash blue is definitely a minus and not a pro.
  2. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    It's interesting to see how different the top 8 list is vs the 28th place list. A lot of people look at elves as this essentially solved deck with a few flex spots but here we have two natural order...
  3. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    So I'm running the following list atm:

    4 Glimpse of Nature
    4 Green Sun’s Zenith
    3 Natural Order

    4 Elvish Visionary
    4 Wirewood Symbiote
    4 Nettle Sentinel
    4 Quirion Ranger
  4. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    For those running garruk relentless in the side: What match ups do you bring him in outside miracles?
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Idk if we're still going to be preying on DnT after this...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Why do you believe the md ooze and 1-1 split of cavern-pendelhaven is the perfect configuation?
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Congrats to Ross Merriam on the top 16 finish. Looks like its the same 75 he went over in his article except -1 Worldspine Wurm +1 Null Rod in the sb.

    Top 16
  8. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    I put in the side 2 weeks ago, but haven't faced any Burn or UR delver at the past two weekly local events. Against U/R delver its tough because they have forked bolt and lightning bolt to keep us...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Im in a similar state of mind atm. It might just be confirmation bias, but I end up with progenitus in my hand a lot more than with progenitus on the board.

    With that said, progenitus I generally...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    The answer to problem 3 in that article seems slimy as hell. So you throw down cabal therapy and quickly say lightning bolt, then they cast it in response, and after it resolves you go "I was just...
  11. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Meh, I actually like the foil "FNM" in the text box, and the art is far and away better.
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Promo Visionary Art > All.
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Similar to what was posted on the last page, I too am trying to figure out good SB cards against U/W/R Delver and UR Delver. Ruric is theoretically pretty good against both, but getting him into play...
  14. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    As you can see I also generally dont post either. However, when a thread has several pages in a row of crappy suggestions and useless discussion it starts to get old. Half the discussion in the pages...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    The list is so far out there and is worse than what we have now. It should not be used as a starting point for lists with 4 natural orders.

    What should be used as a base discussion for a 4...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Probably depends on how the game has been going up leading up to this and what the board state/hand state is. I most likely wouldn't in the majority of situations, with the thought of holding it to...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Another big difference is that storm and combo decks were decks that we have issues with as they are generally faster than us. I don't believe that enchantress or affinity are decks that give us...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Hmm Ive never brought in prog against death and taxes. Ive always had enough creatures on the board to kill them with craterhoof. Regardless, I would still keep a 7 card hand with prog if the other 6...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    My god this deck can just come back out of nowhere. Just had crazy 3rd game against esper stoneblade where I won although I should have lost. The scenario is as follows:

    Up to this point he has...
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Mind posting the solutions to these?
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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    This is more a point for discussion, but what are everyone's thoughts on the amount of natural orders and glimpses in the main deck? I feel like natural order is the much stronger card compared to...
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