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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Imo it makes more sense to start G1 with a quick build and SB into a grindy one than the other way round. In game 2 & 3 its unlikely that you will surprise ANYONE if you have NO in your deck or are...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Cardselection, cardadvantage and killcondition? Sign me up
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    To play more Ponders, Brainstorms and FoW for less variance and better combo matchups? If that a serious question?
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Nice.

    Brainstorm, Daze, Leovold, DRS ... at this point you could essentially just drop the Symbiotes, Visionaries, Glimpse and just run TNN, FoW, Ponder, etc instead for an even better deck
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Nether Void. Made my day. Love it
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    The question is: How are they able to overcome your cardadvantage engines and endless blocks?
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I would prefer Joraga Warcaller. I think that card is underplayed in general
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Would only run that if it was an elf itself. We have already so many drawengines
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I thought its obvious?
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Actually there are 3 new elves. The one with reach + cantrip, Talaras Battalion 2.0 and the new legendary distributing counters and turning every wld into a Lanowar on 'roids.

    I don't think the...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I would look on the card if it reads:

    "Untap all creatures you control. Draw a card for each creature you untapped this way"
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Just wanna say, that Sage also kills Eidolon, Jitte, Vial and more in the matchups you described
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Where did he play against the sweepers we discussed?
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I understand. Using hypotheticals and hyperboles is ONLY fine if you use them to argue FOR a card and its more important to "like" a card than questioning its "role".

    @Prdgychild
    Its nice that...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Isn't finding the right card (and it having the right cost) to counter the Terminus into CB/Jace the task we have?

    Mind, it wasn't me jumping into the thread praising Nissa as the hail mary...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    None of that is required or demanded, really. We are not questioning builds with NO/Hoof or without NO/Hoof as both styles have their clear cut plans and accepted individual weaknesses. We are open...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Which really is not what I am trying to do. I just would like to see it adressed at some point, so that we are not just looking at the card in scenarios, where its a blowout like untapping Cradle...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I think discussing those scenarios is important in the context. So what if your animated Land runs right into Entreat or if the opponent follows up with Mentor after the terminus?
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    If you have/get creatures in play anyways (no matter Terminus or CounterTop), you can pressure your opponent without the need for Nissa, which is the point where I would consider her a win-more.
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    It would benefit the discussion if you would also tell how many times across these 10 games (preboard? Postboard?) you even drew/resolved Nissa and how many times she was a deciding factor, rather...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    It needs 5 out of the ~16 lands you run on the table post sweeper, while half of them are Fetchlands which thin out your land density further. The issues are at hand
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Because, "lets dont mind the 3 DRS, 3 Glimpse, 2 Symbiotes and 3 Nettles which did the whole combo, but point to the random 5-mana untap effect". Interresting interpretation of the word "enable" dood.
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Thats is all fair. I have a problem if people try to make a point solely by pointing to the card text (and no context) or make ridiculous claims like the "enabling" T2 kill.
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    This argument is absolute bullshit. I am not even willing to point it out because its so obvious



    Another argument saying nothing. You could have said "Regal Force may be the best 7 drop for...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Of course stuff gets mixed up like in the storm supertype. Some play Preordains, others more storm spells, a third uses the slots for Dark Petition and the next is mixing it. It still doesnt affect...
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