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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I thought about it being awkward to play it over a good turn 1 creature - however...

    ...against a delver deck post-board I would not assume that my turn 1 creature survives, but that Sanctuary has...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I don't currently play so I don't know the meta and what we need from the SB very well.
    ... so I cannot judge.

    But a couple of posts ago you mentioned Nissa as good vs. delver.
    I played with...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Shaper's Sanctuary looks like a nice sideboard card.

    Some decks rely on a lot of spot removal (with snapcaster) to kill every single dude against us.
    Also helps against a jitte!

    It does not...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Since people expect elves and TNN to make a strong impact I think it is fair to assume that there will be a good amount of rough tumble, toxic deluge, pyroclasm,...

    I would like to test 2 Caller...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I play shaman in chaos builds, but it does not have space in NO builds imo.
    As a SB card ... I am wondering which problem he is supposed to solve and if there aren't better options to solve that...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I recently played a chaos list with Leovold and 1 trop, but I also played 1 Edric in the SB.
    Since I am a fan of 3 birchlore (not only because of fixing but also because of acceleration if...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I think the matchup is positive, but it can make a huge difference
    a) if the opponent is skilled and
    b) whether they have a draw that can beat us (more disruption & relevant creatures to get ahead...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Sure it does...

    Not changing "punishing fire engine fucking elves dynamic".
    I am talking about the spots where you know they will have marit large eot and you we don't have a kill.
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I think Julian already mentioned the reach guy will see play.

    It changes the marit large dynamic with wirewood and acts as another visionary.

    I think I test it instead of my maindeck ooze for...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    The music... amazing!
    The great fanfare when you draw Behemoth... :)
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Also found it very helpful and entertaining.
    The commentary Julian vs. the in game Julian ... who has the better play :laugh:

    Kudos to the background music in the last game. :)
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I don't yet have a fixed list. I test different versions. The one I was talking about above:

    3 Heritage Druid
    4 Deathrite Shaman
    4 Green Sun's Zenith
    4 Nettle Sentinel
    4 Gaea's Cradle
    3...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I also played around with the idea of Decay in the Main and liked it a lot mostly for CB, Delver, Chalice. Decay is the most sided in card so preboarding 2 makes sense I think.

    But I just...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Sounds nice...
    How much more mana would you pay for that effect?
    How much more for instant speed? :)
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Did not know this card existed, but which problem are you trying to solve and against which matchup?
    If we face a lot of blockers like against shardles and cannot go off but want to push a couple...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Did not play the matchup a ton, but don't underestimate the variance. In a different universe your friends are probably complaining why you seem to always Hoof them in turn 2/3. :smile:

    We...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Good point. Let's try it out. :)
    Edric in the SB might also be something to consider btw. Attacking for a couple of points of damage against miracles is not really a threat. He would change that.
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    haha - nice.
    Need to have a PW or artifact countered first. Creatures do also not land often in the GY unfortunately against miracles. But yes - strictly better than Envelop. :)
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I actually had similar thoughts when it comes to the miracle matchup. They can be so relaxed and sure about not losing if they have top+Terminus or Kozileks Return. I think countering one of those...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Concerning Leovold I am a bit on the fence at the moment.

    At the beginning I was super excited and played with him a bit before I came to the conclusion that he does not fit into combo elves. On...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    What I need 5 lands? :eek: thanks for pointing that out. my testing has been positive so far but now that i realize that i need 5 ( FIVE!) lands i see the issues at hand and will stop testing...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Garruk v1 does not solve the problems we face imo.
    1) it does not kill jace
    2) it does not provide a different way of winning other then "have many creatures" - if we do have that than there are...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    In the interest of not discouraging people from posting their thoughts I suggest we stay respectful and don't "trahs" comments which some might consider not optimally reasoned.

    I think the point...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    @Lemnear

    Depends on what you interpret as "being solved". Some years back i played canadian a lot and tinkered about 2-3 meta slots in the SB and whether i play 5 or 6 removal spells Everyone...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Nissa win more?

    If you drop her during combo - most of the time she is win more because if you can spare the 5 mana to untap cradle you might as well just use the 5 mana to keep comboing. But if...
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